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hey guys before we get to this week's

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show I wanted to remind you that in this

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holiday season we can't forget those

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less fortunate than us and here at

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somewhere in the skies I am running an

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event I did last year as well

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for anyone who purchases merchandise

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from the officials somewhere in the sky

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store or purchases my book somewhere in

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the skies a human approach to an alien

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phenomenon 25% of the proceeds will be

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donated to the women's refugee

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commission there are currently almost 60

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million refugees worldwide who have been

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displaced by conflict the women's

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refugee commission improves the lives

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and protects the rights of women

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children and youth who suffer this

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displacement the commission also

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researches their needs identifies

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solutions and advocates for programs and

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policies to strengthen the resilience

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practice since 1989 they have been a

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women and children and the policies that

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can protect and empower them so help

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empower your fellow human beings this

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holiday season while also supporting

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by searching for either somewhere in the

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[Applause]

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this is somewhere in the skies the

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Branzburg

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we have a look on the answer

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while going again for the window into

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Hudson welcome to somewhere in the skies

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I'm your host Ryan Sprague the audio you

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just heard comes from a recently

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Declassified case file it pertains to an

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encounter between a Navy fighter jet and

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an unknown object it was released by the

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Defense Department's advanced aerospace

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threat identification program a secret

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Pentagon project that we've learned

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recently was working in the shadows to

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investigate UFOs this story is making

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national headlines across every major

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news outlet and today we talk in depth

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about it along with other highlights of

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2017 in the summer in the skies year and

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wrap up I am joined by close friends and

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colleagues Jason McClellan Mike Demonte

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and MJ baniyas to discuss some of the

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most interesting UFO alien and space

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news that graced us in 2017 and we then

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look forward to what 2018 may have in

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store for us as we continue to search

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further and deeper somewhere in the

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skies so without further ado let's get

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to the 2017 somewhere in the skies wrap

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up this is going to be an epic

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conversation today I thought what better

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way to wrap up the year than to bring on

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three of my closest friends and

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colleagues I have got Jason McClellan

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from rogue planet I have got MJ Baniyas

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from Tara obscura and I have Mike

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Demonte from punk rock in UFOs gentlemen

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thank you so much for joining me today

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pleasure to be here with you fine

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gentlemen yes this is going to be an

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interesting one for sure I did ask all

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of you before we started recording we

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are not going to be able to get through

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this without a drink so I need to know

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what does everyone have in hand right

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now Jason I'm kind of stealing this from

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your ear your show so

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we'll start with you my friend what it's

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it's kind of kind of hilarious that you

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decided to do this because in an

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uncharacteristic manner I'm drinking

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water tonight oh I have a reason for

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that I already did my drinking earlier

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but I just finished dinner recently and

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I don't cook a meal without it being

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extremely spicy so water is necessary

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right now but to make it interesting

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story about my water so I live in

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Phoenix and the water that the tap water

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here the groundwater is just absolutely

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horrible you don't want to drink it it

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tastes awful so and I know that's the

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case in in many places but in Phoenix

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especially so I go to whatever grocery

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should grocery store I shop out all my

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five gallon jug and fill that up at the

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machines that they have at all the

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grocery stores the grocery store closest

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to my house has two of these machines

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sitting right outside the front door and

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the brand the company that operates

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these these water machines is called

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perfect for Phoenix it's called Fiesta

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water so it makes it seem more exciting

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than it is so I'm drinking Fiesta water

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you know what we're gonna say that's a

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tequila it might be yeah let's go with

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that let's go with that but I I I do

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have alcohol in my system so I guess

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that counts guys sorry MJ what do you

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got for us it's it's a winter here but I

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find that I often tend to go in reverse

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so I'm enjoying a nice gin and soda

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Bombay Sapphire on ice with a hint of

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club soda and a splash of lemon juice so

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I'm just I'm keeping it classy tonight

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boys oh that sounds delightful that is

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my go to Jen so say well done buddy yes

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very well done very well done well what

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what temperature do you have there Jay I

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have to ask it's actually it's nice

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right now hold on let me I it's it was

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nice all day but currently it's a balmy

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minus 100 centigrade centigrade well I

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don't I don't know what that is in

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Fahrenheit sorry conversion I am

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freezing in Phoenix I'm like shivering

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right now and it's 52 so

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yeah 67 degrees in you committed in

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okay okay Mike awesome yeah Jason I'm

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pretty much with you buddy yeah this is

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actually gonna be my first holiday

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without snow so it's gonna be very

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interesting Mike what are you drinking

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I mean it's Monday so the most in the

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most punk-rock fashion I drank I'm

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drinking water as well because Monday

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nights I'd you know it's I do punk rock

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stuff like I go cycling I drink a

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smoothie and I eat a salad so and it's

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also late so the last thing I drank did

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have alcohol in it it was mouthwash that

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is fair I can't imagine if I'd have to

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work tomorrow morning I would have a

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drinkin and I have a lot of whiskey

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leftover different flavored whiskey if

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I'd have to teach the youth of America

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tomorrow morning I would definitely be

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indulging yeah yeah that is a good point

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I think we're what are we acting we have

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three different coasts right now so it's

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getting a little late for a couple of

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you guys so uh we will we will run

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through this

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I am drew do you drink and Ryan I have

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dull more scotch whiskey this is on a 12

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year old so my girlfriend got me this

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amazing gift for Christmas the advent

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calendar of whiskey amazing amazing it's

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amazing yeah you just open up a little

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thing every day and it's got a little

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you know shot bottle of whiskey a lot of

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them it's from its from I believe

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England so it's got a lot of scotches

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but I've run across some really

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interesting ones there was that Japanese

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one I had yesterday I think I was 20

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years old

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very very mild very comely

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very wintry so I'm loving it that's very

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cool yeah I only started seeing those

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things this year and those those are the

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coolest gifts they really are those have

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been calendars in every alcohol you can

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think of so yeah III will give up the

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shameless plug this is called drinks by

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the gram for anyone interested in a very

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very unique gift this holiday season

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drinks by the DRAM all right all right

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Mike and I are at a disadvantage going

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into this but I'll try to pull our

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weight we're depending on you guys the

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sober one so the first I guess story I

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wanted to run through with you guys is a

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very now we hear about UFO cases on a

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daily basis the four of us but this one

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really caught all of our attention and

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was pretty interesting and this was in

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October of this past year in Oregon

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where several witnesses both military

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and commercial this is also confirmed by

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the FAA and NORAD of an unidentified

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flying object in the skies this was

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first reported on reddit and then

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eventually was reported in the drive

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website so apparently around 4:30 p.m.

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over the border of Oregon and California

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there were reports that were coming in

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of a craft and there was no transponder

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there was no communication being done

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between the other aircraft and this this

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is pretty interesting there was visual

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confirmation but not any really good

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descriptions of what was seen but Jason

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I know you did cover this in a episode

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of unknown so I wanted to maybe throw

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this one over to you man and if you have

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any more she could shed any more light

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on this case for us sure well one of the

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you know frustrating things that we tend

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to deal with in this field is the the

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lack of real follow-up on a lot of these

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cases we hear about you know and it's a

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sad sad state of affairs but you you

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look into this it anything with UFOs any

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current news story that comes out that

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sounds awesome and you just kind of

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assume you're never going to hear

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anything about it again because that's

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what happens most of the time and as a

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couple days ago I I did try to find more

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information any follow-up to what we

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found out initially from this report and

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I haven't personally seen any more about

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it and I truth be told I didn't go back

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and look at reddit because reddit is

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reddit yeah exactly I think potentially

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some really good information came from

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that and you know it these sources could

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be pilots they could be people who were

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personally involved in it but you know

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you're just going on faith there but all

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that aside I mean with the article that

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came out with Tyler rogue away.the the

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most who did the story he did more than

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a lot of people do with UFO stories he

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did actually press the FAA and NORAD

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trying to get confirmation trying to get

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more information he did get get that on

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that confirmation and a couple things

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with this case you know really jump out

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at me because I love when this happens

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number one again official confirmation

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that there was something in the air that

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was seen by multiple witnesses both in

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the air and on the ground they the

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craziest thing is the scrambling of

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military aircraft tried to try to

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intercept this thing but crazier still

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they couldn't find it

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so these scrambled military aircraft

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because there was an unidentified craft

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in the air and they couldn't find it

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when I got up there so mystery craft

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that was going super fast approximately

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860 miles per hour it had limited radar

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reflectivity and I mean it was seen by a

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lot of pilots in the air it was

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allegedly executing high G maneuvers so

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a lot of interesting elements to this

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story that I don't know make it a pretty

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darn good UFO story in my book I think

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so and I think there was there audio as

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well from this did anyone have that's

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what makes it fun to listening through

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the the chatter for pilots in the air as

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they're tracking this thing

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communicating with the the airport tower

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you know it's fascinating to listen to

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and it's almost like listening to like a

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police scanner or something hearing you

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know an event unfold right before you're

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listening to it live and hearing their

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reactions it's kind of exciting right I

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love when there's audio data to go with

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these cases it helps so much and it

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really puts you in the shoes of the

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witnesses which is something we rarely

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get we'll talk about it another case

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that recently came out where we had some

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audio as well video but yeah this is a

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pretty compelling one I don't know guys

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do you do you have anything to add to

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this one were you following this case at

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all chime in real quick so I thought was

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kind of coincidence when I was looking

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stuff up about this that just a few

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weeks prior the the Oregon

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their website Oregon live ran was

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October 12th this was I think two weeks

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before the sighting happened they ran a

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throwback story about a UFO UFO case in

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the 20s

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and if you look up Paul Trant UFO photos

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which we're taking an Oregon as well

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yeah they're very very distinct yeah

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these are famous photos but I mean these

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are some of the first UFO photos we've

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ever gotten I believe of a clear object

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and to this day Jason I don't know nmj I

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don't know if you guys can attest to

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this they've pretty much been proven

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authentic right I mean there hasn't been

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tons of controversy behind them as far

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as I know well I think was yeah he's the

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big supporter of the trend photos he

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still stands by them nothing's open

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even today right and I think that like

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you know it's top right because he I

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think all he claims though is that you

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know no one tampered with the film or no

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one with the photograph but it's a

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visible object right a physical object

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in the sky but you know whether it's you

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know a lampshade or something getting

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thrown into the air and you know he

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can't really comment on that it could be

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really be anything those the Trent

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photos but there's I mean they're

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definitely part of sort of UFO mythology

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right there they're definitely sort of

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well-known pictures mm-hmm absolutely

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that's really interesting I got it I

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didn't think about that we do have some

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of the first UFO photos ever from Oregon

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so that was pretty cool and I mean the

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the in terms of this recent case here I

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thought it was pretty interesting that

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the theories they ranged from a possible

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drug smuggling operation since this

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happened in the middle of the day pretty

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much it was in broad daylight or they

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think it might have been possible

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military test craft some people said

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that they saw a white plane which is

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pretty interesting but yeah I guess a

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white craft that's really the only

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description they had and the time of day

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the pilots flying you know most of the

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the closest pilots you know it was

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toward the Sun so they couldn't really

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see it for very long and really just saw

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a reflection of something so right right

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and this sort of harkens back to early

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2017 I'm thinking of the Chilean case

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which to this point have we had guys I

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don't know about you any updates on what

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the hell that was was there any firm

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answer to what that video was was Emily

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Cain one yes with the thing dumping yep

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yep yep yeah wasn't it debunked on

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non-meta bunk but I think they also did

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but with a lot with a lot of these cases

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you know there are plenty of people who

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you know look through flight records and

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make their determination that well based

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on where they say these things were in

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the time of day it was obviously flight

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so-and-so out of this place so yeah I

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think with that case

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several people were we're more than

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content saying yeah for sure they

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identified the flight but you know then

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it comes down to you as an individual

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deciding if he wants you go at this side

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or this side III do think many people

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are happy with an identification of just

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a flight that was in the area but others

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are still on the fence yeah well it if

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they were saying it was a flight that

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how did they explain the how it was

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almost breaking off how did the mixed

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but had to explain that because that was

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featured on a Josh gates Destination

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Truth he did his whole like four part

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chasing UFOs in that case and they tried

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to recreate it on just through I think

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they were on an air balloon they tried

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to recreate that same thing through

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through a my special effects but just

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through kind of practical effects in the

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air to try to create a similar

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phenomenon they had trouble doing so so

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I'm wondering you know people are saying

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well there's a flight at the same time

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has explained the phenomena what people

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were seeing I think it had to do with

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their making claims that it was dumping

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like waste water out of its they got

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like that like piece of toilet water

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lavatory yeah yeah yeah wait the way the

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plane would Bank to like the left or the

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right or something that I guess the way

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that the jet would show up on the FLIR

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because of all the heat just the the

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remnant heat what you're actually seeing

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is not sort of anything coming off it's

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just the heat signature of the jet wash

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coming off the the rear of the airplane

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I don't know I met a bug did it is met

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it was met a bunk after all um they did

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a really good job actually of sort of

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providing all of their sort of evidence

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and citations and references I mean no

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one from the other side has sort of come

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back and said well here's why it isn't

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this or here's why

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isn't that I don't think they've really

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done much to kind of counter the meta

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bunks debunking so I don't know I mean

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maybe I'm just I'm just concerned that

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it was just you know they released it

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maybe prematurely thinking it was

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something big and turns out just a plain

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well and I think that's a good point I'm

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J that you know the journalist Leslie

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Kean she did say like if you have an

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answer please tell me like you know what

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again a responsible journalist saying

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like to the public tell us what you know

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we're bringing this to you tell us what

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you know we did run into a lot of issue

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with this case I think early on where

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people were so quick to be so

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unbelievably they scrutinized it to a

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point where they're saying that the

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journalist covering this case in

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specific was stupid

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or was irresponsible when in reality

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it's a pretty compelling video by an

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army you know what I mean

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like no matter what it was they wanted

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to bring it to the public so I think

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that was it was an interesting case it

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kind of reminded me of this one but yeah

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interesting nonetheless something

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important that we have to keep in mind

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with especially these cases where we

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have video we have footage from from

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planes and coming from military sources

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and really any case in general is

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keeping an open mind and understanding

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that facts and information that come to

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us through the investigation process do

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change and we need to be open to change

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a lot of people latch on to things now I

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don't remember if it was if it was that

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particular Chilean case or a different

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case but I know something with

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information displayed on the camera I

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think it was later found out that it was

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like a a new camera and hadn't been

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calibrated right some piece rie figures

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on the camera displaying weren't

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actually correct to like a centimeter I

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believe yeah yeah so completely putting

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what was being viewed in a different

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location in the sky then the

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investigators had initially reported

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because they were judging off of what

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the camera was saying so little things

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like that can completely change a case

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and a lot of times people dismiss little

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things like that because they say oh

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well I read the initial report and they

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dismiss that

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because they said that absolutely

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couldn't happen well when you have

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something like information from the

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camera that you're basing everything off

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of in terms of positioning that changes

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your entire case I mean you have to go

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back and revisit evidence that you've

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crossed off the list or possibilities

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that you crossed off the list as you're

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saying one thing I like with this

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airliners and I think the articles

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called airliners and f-15s involved and

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bizarre encounter with mystery aircraft

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yeah I think alike with us is it didn't

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come from sort of a UFO source or tip

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right or both I like when when articles

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come from sort of these rogue players

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who are not involved in any way within

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the UFO community they're sort of just

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you know regular journalists who just

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sort of dig into a case or an

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interesting event with no real

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background in the UFO community so they

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don't really arrive to their conclusions

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from sort of a predetermined or I guess

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a pre-established of notion of what UFOs

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are or or at least sort of the the

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mythology behind UFOs so that's one

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thing I found this case to be

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interesting right and it's probably

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something you know I'm probably not

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aliens but I really like this this sort

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of article and I really enjoyed

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listening on your show actually Jason

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the audio it was super interesting

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because again right this is like totally

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not a UFO story that sort of became a

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UFO story right yeah I'm with you 100% I

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love that and especially with the

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background of that particular journalist

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the military and aviation correspondent

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so he's coming at this you know from the

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angle of hey I'm really familiar with

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military aircraft this is what I write

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about and so that gives it a really fun

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angle you know for me personally though

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it speaks volumes to the fact that

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you're having some like you know you

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said MJ who's not you know invested in

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this subject like we are you know it's a

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different perspective but for them to be

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commenting about it as well or

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uncovering it I think that just speaks

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it like speaks volumes about just the

544
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:14,140
interest this stuff is starting to kind

545
00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:16,210
of garner absolutely yeah for sure and

546
00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:18,160
and in that that context you know

547
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:20,620
pointing out from from his military and

548
00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:23,410
aviation background pointing out why

549
00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:25,960
this particular case is something that

550
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:28,180
has elements that we should take note of

551
00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:29,710
you know not just saying oh there was

552
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:31,300
some mystery thing in the sky but

553
00:22:35,010 --> 00:22:34,210
pointing out the fact that here it was

554
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:35,020
being acknowledged

555
00:22:39,540 --> 00:22:37,510
by official sources that jets were

556
00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:39,550
scrambled that it wasn't able to be

557
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:41,980
located just a lot of things that raised

558
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:45,310
red flags from a military / aviation

559
00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:47,290
standpoint I've loved it loved it we got

560
00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:49,960
nothing but the facts and I think that's

561
00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:51,820
you know Mike you can attest to this as

562
00:22:55,230 --> 00:22:53,320
a professional journalist and you guys

563
00:22:57,540 --> 00:22:55,240
as well like that's that's what we need

564
00:23:00,330 --> 00:22:57,550
there's no belief involved in this it

565
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:00,340
was this happen fact by fact time date

566
00:23:05,910 --> 00:23:03,130
done boom hopefully we'll get some sort

567
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:05,920
of follow-up who knows we running that's

568
00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:07,930
always the hope all the time I know

569
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,870
Jason well guys we're gonna do a UFO

570
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:12,640
sandwich so we've got some meat in

571
00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:15,910
between these or some vegan meat as well

572
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,190
sorry just thank you for your welcome

573
00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:20,320
you're welcome he's had the impossible

574
00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:22,180
burger by the way I have not had the

575
00:23:27,890 --> 00:23:23,950
impossible burger I've had the Beyond

576
00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:27,900
burger okay gone burger is amazing still

577
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:30,670
I had an impossible burger last night

578
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:34,930
and I'm hooked I I'm gonna cross over I

579
00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:44,050
think I'm ready to cross yes as the last

580
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:46,750
Jedi would say all right so yeah in our

581
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:48,910
sandwich gentlemen we have another

582
00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:50,770
pretty a lot of these things we're

583
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:52,750
covering tonight are very recent which

584
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:54,430
always seems to happen when you try to

585
00:23:58,830 --> 00:23:56,410
do a wrap-up show everything happens

586
00:24:00,840 --> 00:23:58,840
like a couple days after or you know

587
00:24:03,870 --> 00:24:00,850
stuff like that it's never throughout

588
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:03,880
the air so we had or so long it's so

589
00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:05,350
freaking long hard to remember what

590
00:24:08,820 --> 00:24:07,030
happened earlier it really is and there

591
00:24:11,070 --> 00:24:08,830
are some things that we all want to

592
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:11,080
forget we did discuss a couple things we

593
00:24:15,930 --> 00:24:13,570
were gonna talk about a few individuals

594
00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:15,940
specifically but I think we should fear

595
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:19,240
towards more the optimistic side so the

596
00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:21,010
next one we're gonna talk about is the

597
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:23,350
my girlfriends from Hawaii she will

598
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:25,450
never forgive me if I get this wrong the

599
00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:35,350
muah-muah asteroid storm abla I was

600
00:24:38,190 --> 00:24:36,700
actually practicing trying to pronounce

601
00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:38,200
it earlier and I was like you know I'm

602
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:45,000
that's the appropriate decision she's in

603
00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:46,630
the other room thinking what the hell is

604
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:47,800
he doing in there

605
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:50,570
all right so we have an asteroid from

606
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,170
another star system that recently if not

607
00:24:58,810 --> 00:24:56,000
currently is zipping past Jupiter and

608
00:24:59,980 --> 00:24:58,820
around a hundred in ninety six to eight

609
00:25:02,950 --> 00:24:59,990
miles per hour

610
00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:02,960
holy this is actually too fast to

611
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:04,430
be trapped by the Sun's gravitational

612
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:07,190
pole amazing this was first spotted by

613
00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:09,890
astronomers at pan-starrs project at the

614
00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:11,750
University of Hawaii this is pretty

615
00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:13,550
interesting guys this is not like most

616
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:15,350
meteors or asteroids we're used to

617
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:17,570
seeing that are round jagged this is

618
00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:21,200
cigar shaped and pretty weird it's

619
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,780
pretty weird and some scientists do not

620
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:25,760
think that this is a natural object

621
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:29,090
including Stephen Hawking so they had a

622
00:25:33,850 --> 00:25:30,770
plan that they wanted to try to

623
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:33,860
communicate with whatever this object is

624
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:36,650
and I did ask a couple of you guys to do

625
00:25:40,990 --> 00:25:38,780
some homework on this one because I am

626
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:41,000
horrible at astronomy and space stuff so

627
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:43,370
if anyone could chime in on this one and

628
00:25:46,090 --> 00:25:45,410
has further details please feel free to

629
00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:46,100
jump in

630
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,860
sure so all I'll start us off here the

631
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:50,240
the most recent article actually that I

632
00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:52,910
that just came out literally hour ago

633
00:25:58,510 --> 00:25:56,150
was from BGR calm which is a tech

634
00:26:00,100 --> 00:25:58,520
website and I guess there's been a

635
00:26:02,020 --> 00:26:00,110
recent development that they are calling

636
00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:02,030
it officially sort of a comment now or

637
00:26:07,210 --> 00:26:04,520
at least I don't wanna say but they're

638
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:07,220
assessing it now as a comet because it

639
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:09,320
doesn't sort of contain the the usual

640
00:26:13,330 --> 00:26:11,090
sort rock-like substance on an asteroid

641
00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:13,340
or a meteor what however due to its odd

642
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:14,870
shape and I guess the speed is traveling

643
00:26:18,550 --> 00:26:16,130
and and the fact that it's been

644
00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:18,560
traveling for quite some time it's it's

645
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,800
lost its outer sort of icy shell so

646
00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:23,360
that's why it's not really sort of

647
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:25,280
giving off the typical comet trail and

648
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:28,130
it's just sort of behaving oddly I

649
00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:29,630
suppose but right now they're

650
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:32,660
considering it a comet but you know we

651
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:34,570
can always try talking to it too I guess

652
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:37,040
yeah yeah this is a pretty interesting

653
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:39,650
one I'd the day this came out I don't

654
00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:41,030
know about you guys but everyone was

655
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:43,640
like uh what is this thing especially

656
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:45,350
since someone like Stephen Hawking is

657
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:48,070
saying you know this looks like a ship

658
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:50,690
yeah pretty interesting thing for

659
00:26:55,150 --> 00:26:52,970
something someone like him to say again

660
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:55,160
maybe that was taken out of context

661
00:26:59,530 --> 00:26:57,770
somehow I'm sure it was but yeah yeah

662
00:27:01,000 --> 00:26:59,540
this one this one was pretty interesting

663
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:01,010
I don't know if anyone else has anything

664
00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:03,290
well I love stuff like this and I need

665
00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:05,660
it just you know another illustration of

666
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:08,870
how bizarrely awesome the universe is

667
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:12,590
and how we really have no idea about the

668
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:13,730
things that are in it

669
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:16,250
so you know we see something that looks

670
00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:18,230
different and it's just the same with

671
00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:20,150
UFOs two things in the sky that we're

672
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:21,800
not used to seeing we see something that

673
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:24,730
looks bizarre then all of a sudden our

674
00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:26,810
imaginations run wild on them wrong oh

675
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:28,940
what's this this must be an alien

676
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:32,450
spacecraft yeah so you know and some

677
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:35,090
people poopoo the the initiatives like

678
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:37,160
the breakthrough initiatives people who

679
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:38,990
you know train the green big telescope

680
00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:41,030
and try to listen to see if they can get

681
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:42,920
any aliens extraterrestrial signals off

682
00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:44,690
of this thing I applaud those efforts

683
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:46,520
you know I'm glad someone's out there

684
00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:48,050
doing it because we should try

685
00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:49,550
everything right I mean we don't know

686
00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:52,040
what it is so why just dismiss something

687
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:53,800
and say well obviously it's not

688
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:55,910
extraterrestrials we don't know it could

689
00:28:01,210 --> 00:27:58,310
be it's probably not it looks like a big

690
00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:01,220
piece of rock that looks bizarre but

691
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:04,040
does it look like a cool spacecraft like

692
00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:06,530
I would imagine awesome extraterrestrial

693
00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:08,120
civilizations would build but hey it's

694
00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:10,520
possible so let these guys in their

695
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:12,440
group you know they've got the money I

696
00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:14,390
mean it's Yuri Milner and Mark

697
00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:16,190
Zuckerberg you know I love what

698
00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:17,990
breakthrough initiatives is doing like I

699
00:28:21,370 --> 00:28:19,580
love billionaires who are spending their

700
00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:21,380
money on space exploration that is

701
00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:23,480
amazing so let them do it

702
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:26,540
I'm glad I haven't heard from aliens yet

703
00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:28,990
aboard this thing what hey keep looking

704
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:31,160
exactly man I think that's a good point

705
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,770
that like there's God if these projects

706
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:35,600
are gonna continue like they need

707
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:38,090
something to study so why not throw that

708
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:39,290
money into something like this while

709
00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:40,970
others may say it's a waste of time or

710
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:44,150
money this is why we have these projects

711
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:46,310
and dude I always pointed out people

712
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,530
people love to rip on Ceti and stuff

713
00:28:51,670 --> 00:28:50,000
right I said it's not something that's

714
00:28:53,530 --> 00:28:51,680
really getting taxpayer money you know

715
00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:53,540
it's tough to get donations for and

716
00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:56,030
whatever and projects like this

717
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,560
breakthrough initiatives these are

718
00:29:02,740 --> 00:28:59,840
billionaires and billionaires can either

719
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:02,750
spend their money on yachts and being

720
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:05,420
obnoxious here on earth or they can fund

721
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:07,910
space initiatives I'm all for the

722
00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:10,250
billionaires who want to spend their

723
00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:12,590
money on space very good point Mike what

724
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:13,880
were you gonna add yeah I was just

725
00:29:16,369 --> 00:29:14,220
saying

726
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,379
the interesting thing was the the name

727
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:18,960
the names given in Hawaiian is Stan

728
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:21,570
first L that means Scout really

729
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:23,190
fascinating yeah absolutely

730
00:29:28,730 --> 00:29:25,769
III think again like what we can bring

731
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:28,740
to things like this is just it goes far

732
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:31,710
beyond anything that we do and in terms

733
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:35,610
of like studying UFOs here on earth it's

734
00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:37,559
amazing that we have like you said Jason

735
00:29:42,409 --> 00:29:39,419
people willing to put money into looking

736
00:29:45,499 --> 00:29:42,419
for things out there so let's keep doing

737
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:45,509
that and I guess to sort of piggyback

738
00:29:49,639 --> 00:29:47,700
off of that is our next big story that

739
00:29:52,999 --> 00:29:49,649
came a few days ago and this is the

740
00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:53,009
discovery of the first alien star system

741
00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:55,740
with eight planets which sounds a little

742
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,899
similar to our own so I'm gonna throw it

743
00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:00,240
over to you guys who who's looked into

744
00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:02,340
this one I've barely scratched the

745
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:03,899
surface when it comes to this but it

746
00:30:07,789 --> 00:30:05,850
sounds extremely interesting I can

747
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:07,799
certainly talk a little bit about it you

748
00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:09,809
know this is one of those things that we

749
00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:11,399
get announced notification from NASA

750
00:30:14,539 --> 00:30:12,419
that they're gonna hold a press

751
00:30:18,019 --> 00:30:14,549
conference to reveal some exciting

752
00:30:22,269 --> 00:30:18,029
findings sometimes and more times than

753
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,279
not NASA is to blame for hyping stories

754
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:24,360
they started doing this several years

755
00:30:30,139 --> 00:30:27,600
ago when they realized that people got

756
00:30:32,029 --> 00:30:30,149
really excited about extraterrestrials

757
00:30:32,869 --> 00:30:32,039
and the possibility of alien

758
00:30:36,019 --> 00:30:32,879
civilizations

759
00:30:39,289 --> 00:30:36,029
so they'd start carefully wording their

760
00:30:41,749 --> 00:30:39,299
press releases to hype it up and create

761
00:30:42,769 --> 00:30:41,759
this maybe a little bit of hope that

762
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,779
they're going to announce they found

763
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:45,600
aliens so that never happens

764
00:30:51,169 --> 00:30:49,049
and hasn't happened yet and even now

765
00:30:53,659 --> 00:30:51,179
with press releases and I the press

766
00:30:56,990 --> 00:30:53,669
release for this particular story wasn't

767
00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:57,000
really hyped up like NASA has done in

768
00:31:03,019 --> 00:30:59,490
recent history but that didn't stop a

769
00:31:08,299 --> 00:31:03,029
lot of mainstream media from worrying

770
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:08,309
their headlines in a way that said is

771
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:10,350
NASA going to reveal they found aliens

772
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:11,970
like there was nothing in the press

773
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:13,529
release to even hint that they had this

774
00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:16,080
massive announcement or something to do

775
00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:18,539
with extraterrestrial life previous

776
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:19,830
press releases have said that because

777
00:31:24,109 --> 00:31:22,289
they're talking about you know things

778
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,119
with astrobiology and potential signs

779
00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:26,100
and potential energy sources that could

780
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:27,180
mean that life

781
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,980
been there at one point in time but

782
00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:30,840
there was nothing like that in this but

783
00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:32,600
still there were plenty of headlines

784
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:34,800
wondering and speculating about what

785
00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:36,210
this announcement is going to be and

786
00:31:39,890 --> 00:31:38,070
saying they are going to announce they

787
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,900
found aliens well there's nothing like

788
00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:42,240
that so it was on December 14th when

789
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:44,220
they had their press conference to

790
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:46,380
announce the latest findings from the

791
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:49,020
Kepler space telescope and anybody's

792
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:50,610
listen to me over the years there are

793
00:31:57,380 --> 00:31:53,130
various interviews and shows I love

794
00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:57,390
Kepler like the little space robot that

795
00:32:00,680 --> 00:31:59,370
could like he's overcome so much

796
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:00,690
adversity and he's still out there

797
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:05,820
trucking you know he so what Kepler did

798
00:32:12,170 --> 00:32:09,030
they they sifted through some of the the

799
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:12,180
recent data collected by Kepler and they

800
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:14,090
found this solar system approximately

801
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,620
2,500 light-years from Earth planets

802
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:18,240
there are eight of them they circle a

803
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:21,690
star called Kepler 90 and so this solar

804
00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:24,630
system now ties our solar system for the

805
00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:26,400
highest number of planets around a

806
00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:28,740
single star so of course people start

807
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:30,540
the speculation out there that all maybe

808
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:32,610
it's our twin maybe there's an earth out

809
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:35,130
there all that stuff's and also we can

810
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:37,590
get into a debate about well hey we

811
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:39,720
really have nine planets let's be honest

812
00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:42,360
here don't don't be mean to my Pluto see

813
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:48,630
when I was a boy yes but anyway so they

814
00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:50,370
found this so the they found a couple

815
00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:51,750
more planets in the solar system to

816
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:53,580
bring in fleeing its count up to eight

817
00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:55,950
to tie our planet count in our solar

818
00:33:01,790 --> 00:32:59,610
system that's cool but the coolest part

819
00:33:03,890 --> 00:33:01,800
about this announcement was that NASA

820
00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:03,900
teamed up with Google AI they used

821
00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:06,150
machine learning to sift through

822
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:09,630
Kepler's data so machines found at these

823
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:11,850
planets kind of freaky but kind of cool

824
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:13,410
so what what they did was they

825
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:15,240
essentially constructed a neural net

826
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:17,910
based off of human brain and these

827
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,540
machines were able to look through data

828
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:23,760
and notice dips that human eyes would

829
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,740
miss and they were able to locate these

830
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:28,080
planets so that's going to help

831
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:31,320
tremendously in sifting through Kepler

832
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:33,480
data you know this thing was launched in

833
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,870
2009 and it just continues collecting

834
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:39,600
mountains of data it would take years

835
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:40,750
and years and years and years

836
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:42,910
to sort sift through it they've

837
00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:46,240
implemented and utilized other things

838
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:49,180
like crowdsourcing and other computers

839
00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:52,750
like SETI at home that system to help

840
00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:55,660
sift through the data but still it's

841
00:33:58,410 --> 00:33:56,860
gonna take forever

842
00:34:00,300 --> 00:33:58,420
especially since couple are still

843
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:00,310
collecting data but now that we've got

844
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:01,540
the machines on it

845
00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:04,420
those robots will find plenty of more

846
00:34:10,379 --> 00:34:08,409
planets but since launching in 2009 2500

847
00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:10,389
planets exoplanets have been confirmed

848
00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:13,360
thanks to Kepler so pretty awesome I

849
00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:16,060
love Kepler exactly man if they McCain

850
00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:18,669
proving like we were searching for radio

851
00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:21,100
signals we're searching visually it's

852
00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:23,320
it's incredible that like these things

853
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,260
are still going on and unless we hear

854
00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:28,480
these breakthrough announcements by NASA

855
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:30,760
not many people ever think about it like

856
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:32,649
this should be national headlines any

857
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:35,350
time there's even a small discovery but

858
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:37,270
again it's just not the sort of media

859
00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:40,840
world we live in but you know we're so

860
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,909
used to stuff now I mean you know

861
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:45,040
desensitized to everything and anything

862
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:47,490
because we've heard it before so

863
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:51,520
exoplanet been there done that all right

864
00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:53,290
let me know when you find aliens and

865
00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:54,460
then even then people won't be that

866
00:35:00,900 --> 00:34:56,950
excited but yeah I mean people don't get

867
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:00,910
it exoplanets are fairly recent we

868
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,200
didn't even know about a single

869
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,480
exoplanet until you know recent history

870
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:06,880
so I don't know it's all very exciting

871
00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:09,340
it's all happening super fast too so I

872
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:11,020
think because we're so inundated with it

873
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:12,130
now which is such a common occurrence

874
00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:14,050
that people you know brush it off

875
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:16,270
they're all another another planet so

876
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:19,690
what you know it's common occurrence but

877
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:20,830
at the same time it's you know your

878
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:23,230
riots the people who are exploring these

879
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:24,970
are the billionaires and NASA and groups

880
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:26,530
I said it because the government's not

881
00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:28,180
putting any money into this as far as we

882
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:29,980
know you know space exploration is not

883
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:32,050
on the the budget in the United States

884
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:34,810
right now so it just is just fascinating

885
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:36,730
that you know all these discoveries kind

886
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:39,670
of has to be done not rogue first I ever

887
00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:42,340
found it no pun intended but you know

888
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,380
you said you know we're just kinda suits

889
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:46,000
here just kind of happening very very

890
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:48,250
low-key you know and when it does happen

891
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:49,750
you know you're right it's like oh

892
00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:51,820
another you know Star Wars discovered

893
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:54,040
and it's not as big news but the same

894
00:35:57,060 --> 00:35:55,330
time people are still interested if that

895
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,070
makes sense just just the fact that you

896
00:36:00,090 --> 00:35:58,480
know some of these sites are we're

897
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:00,100
running almost clickbait about the NASA

898
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:02,320
announcement yeah actly I think that

899
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:04,450
that speaks volumes the fact that of the

900
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:07,120
interest of even if the announcement or

901
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:08,230
that the news is an earth-shattering

902
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,150
well and the things that really do hit

903
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:12,880
are so just like head scratching you

904
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:15,310
know really why did this story become so

905
00:36:20,670 --> 00:36:18,250
large I mean think about the last solar

906
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:20,680
eclipse that was like a pop culture

907
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:23,890
thing you know wait why is this

908
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:27,760
happening yeah everybody's into it

909
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,940
collapses is space cool again like I'm

910
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:36,000
tripping I'm oh yeah

911
00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:38,200
obviously these people I can finally

912
00:36:43,590 --> 00:36:40,390
woken up space is cool man and all this

913
00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:43,600
stuff going on but why now what what

914
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:45,550
happened to make everybody interested in

915
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,180
the equipment I'll tell you guys maybe

916
00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:54,400
it's that my car I was gonna say like in

917
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,860
order for this thing to be you know a

918
00:37:01,920 --> 00:36:59,920
pop culture thing or to really get to

919
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:01,930
the masses you got to get an Instagram

920
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,420
selfie with it and we just can't do that

921
00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:06,880
with these planets yes that's true but

922
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,100
they even tried to latch onto that

923
00:37:13,590 --> 00:37:11,440
several years ago some of these

924
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,600
initiatives with yeah take a selfie and

925
00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:16,240
send it to this number and we'll take

926
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:21,700
all your selfies to Mars I don't think

927
00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:24,160
this would be a ufology 2017 year in

928
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,550
review

929
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:27,040
you know unless we mentioned sort of how

930
00:37:32,190 --> 00:37:29,890
exciting it's been for sort of the exo

931
00:37:33,390 --> 00:37:32,200
politics and the disclosure movement and

932
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:33,400
I think that they've had a really good

933
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:36,340
year and I think that I if I have to

934
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:39,490
sort of comment on on one post I'm tired

935
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:42,010
of seeing it is the typical disclosure

936
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:44,530
person who sort of writes like drip drip

937
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:48,130
splash in in regards to the news this

938
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:50,650
year because it's been this sort of you

939
00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:53,200
know discovery of exoplanets is suddenly

940
00:37:57,450 --> 00:37:55,780
you know NASA just slowly dripping that

941
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,460
there's an alien reality they're just

942
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:00,160
slowly releasing the obvious way and

943
00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:02,770
yeah you know so help me if I see the

944
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:04,780
words drip drip splash again I'm gonna

945
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,930
go nuts in regards to disclosure because

946
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:10,720
you're gonna see it both and I and I've

947
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:13,000
kind of you know girded my loins I'm

948
00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:18,880
ready for it but I'm just mentioned in

949
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:24,340
the 2017 ufology yes absolutely and with

950
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:27,130
that gentleman we're going to get to the

951
00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:27,880
meat

952
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:35,500
2017 let's start with Tom DeLonge know

953
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:37,570
we had this major announcement about to

954
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:39,910
the Stars Academy I don't need to remind

955
00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:41,650
to listeners about what that is you know

956
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:43,990
what it is now Jason you did a wonderful

957
00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:45,970
discussion with both of these gentlemen

958
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:48,580
about this so yeah who wants to take

959
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:50,170
this one before we even get to what

960
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:52,000
happened a couple days ago what's to

961
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:54,040
give a brief overview and sort of maybe

962
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:56,410
what's currently going on with to the

963
00:39:07,130 --> 00:38:58,330
Stars Academy anybody want to take this

964
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:10,290
okay so I will try and give my most

965
00:39:17,490 --> 00:39:13,750
unbiased the journalistic to the Stars

966
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:17,500
Academy recap okay let's say so I came

967
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:19,510
over the month October I think stars of

968
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:22,270
the Atome of article 11 yep they go

969
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:24,670
October 11th oh Anthony October yeah a

970
00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:27,610
day which will live in infamy my wedding

971
00:39:35,370 --> 00:39:32,340
anniversary of Arts and Science

972
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:35,380
officially sort of was announced by Tom

973
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:38,290
DeLonge and a group of individuals that

974
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:40,600
say contractors from various government

975
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:44,050
and intelligence cough-cough agencies

976
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:45,520
and they announced that they were

977
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:47,980
launching a project that would join both

978
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:52,150
sides and art to one develop new

979
00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:54,310
technology for the public good which

980
00:39:59,310 --> 00:39:56,950
would bring 25th century technology to

981
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,320
the 21st century as well as some

982
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,160
potential new evidence to suggest that

983
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:05,680
advanced aerial threats exist and that

984
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:08,530
unknown aerial phenomena are real and

985
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:11,170
haunting our skies and it's not

986
00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:13,840
necessarily benevolent is that okay was

987
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:16,300
that my was that fair absolutely

988
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:17,680
I threw up a few times in my mouth

989
00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:19,870
saying all that so I just need to wash

990
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:21,820
that down with my gin someone take over

991
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:23,890
so do you want to talk let's talk about

992
00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:25,870
more recently the past couple of days

993
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:28,360
yes so let's get into that thank you

994
00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:30,730
well yeah I mean meet your honor Thomas

995
00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:33,340
last week how I don't think Tom has

996
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:36,040
really done himself favors leading up to

997
00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:37,990
it just because I know the initial

998
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:39,580
announcement just the kind of the flack

999
00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:41,560
he was getting from it to the Stars

1000
00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:43,120
Academy I think it really was a big blow

1001
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:45,100
to his ego and I think was it when it

1002
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:47,350
was it on my Thursday or Friday yeah he

1003
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:49,330
posted this tweet just kind of attacking

1004
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:52,270
a lot of people who follow him or folk

1005
00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:54,310
community in general and it was very it

1006
00:40:59,130 --> 00:40:56,740
was just a bad look well I mean like two

1007
00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:59,140
days later they dropped this footage

1008
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:00,660
which they've been promising

1009
00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:02,950
wait-wait-wait-wait like might be unfair

1010
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:05,320
yeah better here after his announcement

1011
00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:07,810
in October for several months watching

1012
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:10,030
us our once right several weeks he

1013
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:14,230
posted many photographs that are clearly

1014
00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:16,210
have already been debunked by beautiful

1015
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:17,620
community yes

1016
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:20,020
Twitter feed and saying that this was

1017
00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:22,390
evidence of UFOs when clearly this was

1018
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:25,060
sort of ridiculous host information from

1019
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:29,080
even secured team ten so so we need to

1020
00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:31,690
be fair here that yet yeah he was he he

1021
00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:33,820
did sort of get his ego hurt but I gotta

1022
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:35,860
be honest what what is he doing

1023
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:37,660
posting these ridiculous photographs

1024
00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:41,620
that clearly are not legitimate I think

1025
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:43,780
the bet just comes from his general

1026
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:46,630
sloppiness the you know is very ddd and

1027
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:48,910
he's gets really excited and rather you

1028
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:49,810
know if you're gonna post a photo like

1029
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,730
that explain hey this is something

1030
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:53,440
that's fake but we're gonna try to build

1031
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:55,270
something that's like this or there's

1032
00:41:59,970 --> 00:41:56,890
none of that it's just very rushed and

1033
00:42:01,530 --> 00:41:59,980
very i do not not very well thought out

1034
00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:01,540
and i think a lot of things he kind of

1035
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:02,680
post on social media aren't very

1036
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:03,850
thought-out because he doesn't have a

1037
00:42:07,830 --> 00:42:06,970
lot of people managing kind of well when

1038
00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:07,840
we put it this way i think there's

1039
00:42:12,090 --> 00:42:10,660
people who manage officially what he can

1040
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:12,100
can't do regarding the company but when

1041
00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:13,450
it comes through his own social media i

1042
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:15,100
don't think there's anyone here saying

1043
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:16,630
hey this isn't a good idea or not

1044
00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:18,550
especially people he has working with

1045
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,380
the people he has on his team or you

1046
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,240
know the to the stars out the academy i

1047
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:24,640
mean it's it's family and friends he's

1048
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:25,930
been working with for years now and i

1049
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:27,730
don't make any of them are you have the

1050
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:29,500
balls to be anything other than a yes

1051
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:31,510
matter a friend to tell him you know hey

1052
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:32,770
this isn't a good-looker this isn't a

1053
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,030
good idea I'm not defending and posting

1054
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:37,280
they're the ridiculous hoax photos he

1055
00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:38,690
did you know that's definitely a head

1056
00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:40,820
scratcher but I just think you know he

1057
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:42,680
kind of has this accountability free

1058
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:46,370
world but to the stars right right I

1059
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:49,010
mean he is the not the sole owner but

1060
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:51,830
yeah he runs basically everything that's

1061
00:42:57,370 --> 00:42:54,470
coming out of there and that tweet mic

1062
00:42:59,680 --> 00:42:57,380
was deleted I believe a few hours later

1063
00:43:03,250 --> 00:42:59,690
the hoaxed photos were deleted at one

1064
00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:03,260
point yeah so this guy this is if

1065
00:43:09,070 --> 00:43:05,420
anything is coming out of this hole Tom

1066
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:09,080
DeLonge thing which may run even deeper

1067
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,980
into 2018 it's that the dude is shooting

1068
00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:14,720
himself in the foot time and time again

1069
00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:18,590
but then producing solid stuff that can

1070
00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:20,750
be debated we will get into that many

1071
00:43:24,580 --> 00:43:23,060
people argue that none of what has

1072
00:43:26,890 --> 00:43:24,590
happened in the past few days is

1073
00:43:27,790 --> 00:43:26,900
anything new I want to hear your guy's

1074
00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:27,800
opinion on that

1075
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:29,900
so Mike you were sort of hinting at what

1076
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:32,090
happened so why don't you sort of drop

1077
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,760
this bomb for us that I guess inevitably

1078
00:43:40,930 --> 00:43:36,560
Tom DeLonge dropped on us a couple days

1079
00:43:42,190 --> 00:43:40,940
ago Saturday morning I believe yeah it

1080
00:43:44,110 --> 00:43:42,200
was really interesting because the New

1081
00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:44,120
York Times apparently was you know there

1082
00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:45,590
don't you quote unquote broke this story

1083
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:47,180
and they were holding on to it for days

1084
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:49,130
because a lot of times you know before

1085
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:50,330
you run a story especially something

1086
00:43:53,650 --> 00:43:52,310
like that where there's multiple sources

1087
00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:53,660
you have to get the sources approved by

1088
00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:54,860
your editors you know so it's always

1089
00:43:57,730 --> 00:43:56,150
fascinating me when there's you know you

1090
00:43:59,110 --> 00:43:57,740
hear about you know Washington Post or

1091
00:44:01,660 --> 00:43:59,120
big outlets that have stories with

1092
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,670
30-plus sources you know usually it's a

1093
00:44:05,020 --> 00:44:03,920
pretty credible story so I think this is

1094
00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:05,030
something that's been working for a

1095
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:06,260
while and I think this is something that

1096
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:08,870
Tom is teased and you know you know you

1097
00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:10,310
can really reveal anything about it yet

1098
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:12,440
but still why would you you know this

1099
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:13,670
numbers coming out soon why would you

1100
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:15,950
tweet something ridiculous previously

1101
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:17,570
you know previous days just try to stir

1102
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:19,430
in the pot and attacking people so that

1103
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:21,050
kind of you know bottom of my mind but

1104
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:22,760
on Saturday morning the New York Times

1105
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:24,710
came out with this great story and the

1106
00:44:29,740 --> 00:44:26,270
story the story never mentions Tom by

1107
00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:29,750
name mostly about Lewis Elizondo and his

1108
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,430
position in the Pentagon and at the

1109
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:32,960
gimbal footage which to the Stars

1110
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:35,330
released I'm on their website and then

1111
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,490
yeah so that's kind of where we were at

1112
00:44:41,530 --> 00:44:39,920
Saturday and the the biggest takeaway I

1113
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:41,540
take from this is this story's

1114
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:44,210
everywhere it's on CNN it was in New

1115
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:46,550
York New York Times largest story this

1116
00:44:51,870 --> 00:44:48,530
weekend in terms of hits and comments

1117
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,880
NBC picked up on it wah chicest

1118
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:54,319
Washington Post every major outlets

1119
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,510
reported on it and I blogged about this

1120
00:45:00,010 --> 00:44:58,400
today and the most important thing we

1121
00:45:01,690 --> 00:45:00,020
take it you know the biggest takeaway we

1122
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:01,700
take about this is number one these

1123
00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:03,170
major outlets reporting on it and

1124
00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:05,990
they're taking it seriously too you know

1125
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:08,060
they're not dismissing it and especially

1126
00:45:09,849 --> 00:45:09,290
with all this going on in the world

1127
00:45:12,190 --> 00:45:09,859
right now

1128
00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:12,200
you know the 24-hour news cycle is very

1129
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:15,230
much dominated by ratings was clicking

1130
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,670
what people care about and what like I

1131
00:45:19,930 --> 00:45:18,319
say that with the you know the situation

1132
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:19,940
in North Korea what's going on in

1133
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:21,650
America right now between the the GOP

1134
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:24,050
tax bill and Trump making a fool out of

1135
00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:25,550
himself every day you know every day

1136
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:26,660
there's something new there's so much

1137
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:28,730
stuff that's dominating the headlines so

1138
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:30,530
for this to kind of get some play even

1139
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:32,810
if it's ten minutes I think that that

1140
00:45:36,609 --> 00:45:34,310
says something that speaks volumes to

1141
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:36,619
the fact that hey maybe people are

1142
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:38,270
starting to care it and show that they

1143
00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:40,310
care about this stuff I want to believe

1144
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,030
that so bad Mike I do wonder though a

1145
00:45:49,059 --> 00:45:46,160
lot of the reporters on these major

1146
00:45:52,089 --> 00:45:49,069
outlets when they had was the Kenan they

1147
00:45:53,859 --> 00:45:52,099
had Luis Elizondo on to interview them

1148
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:53,869
the first thing they said before they

1149
00:45:58,599 --> 00:45:56,210
even asked about what this actual news

1150
00:46:00,520 --> 00:45:58,609
was about was it is so refreshing to

1151
00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:00,530
talk about something other than American

1152
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:02,900
politics so that right there I do

1153
00:46:06,819 --> 00:46:05,150
question you know the genuine interest

1154
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:06,829
by some of the mainstream media but at

1155
00:46:10,839 --> 00:46:08,210
the same time it does come down to

1156
00:46:13,809 --> 00:46:10,849
ratings we do know that UFOs and aliens

1157
00:46:15,609 --> 00:46:13,819
are a big hot-button thing when it is in

1158
00:46:17,890 --> 00:46:15,619
the mainstream even if it is ridiculed

1159
00:46:20,890 --> 00:46:17,900
at times but like you said there's been

1160
00:46:23,410 --> 00:46:20,900
very little ridicule factor with this

1161
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,420
story and I think it be is because of

1162
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,280
the content we have an extremely

1163
00:46:30,130 --> 00:46:28,880
compelling video that was that was given

1164
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:30,140
to us by to the stars and I do want to

1165
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:32,210
ask about that do do any of you know

1166
00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:34,910
does DeLong into the stars do they own

1167
00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:38,180
this video I don't think so Oh that'd be

1168
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:39,950
possible unless there's some story where

1169
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:42,700
he paid for the rights to it but yeah

1170
00:46:47,470 --> 00:46:45,290
it's it belongs to the government and no

1171
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:47,480
one person can own it so it's a de cost

1172
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,310
of my video so anybody can get it okay

1173
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:51,680
what they are the ones that facilitated

1174
00:46:56,859 --> 00:46:53,930
the getting it released so obviously the

1175
00:46:59,079 --> 00:46:56,869
ones that all the media media sources

1176
00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:59,089
are citing to you so and rightfully so

1177
00:47:04,130 --> 00:47:01,800
but no he doesn't own it yeah

1178
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:04,140
could you maybe comment on what exactly

1179
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:07,170
the news was and besides the video we

1180
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:09,510
haven't we have a project that I don't

1181
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:12,030
know about you guys but I never really

1182
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:15,180
heard anything about this look maybe I'm

1183
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:16,890
a naive ufologist I don't know but

1184
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:19,050
please tell me if you do any on this

1185
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:21,390
project I think the the the videos that

1186
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:24,390
were released are cool and people need

1187
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:27,180
to understand or you know we'll just we

1188
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:29,010
didn't see if they follow through and I

1189
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:30,540
think they will but they they just

1190
00:47:35,060 --> 00:47:32,220
launched their community of interest and

1191
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:35,070
we're talking about to the Stars Academy

1192
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,960
of Arts and Science here something that

1193
00:47:40,820 --> 00:47:38,640
Tom had hinted add that they were trying

1194
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:40,830
to do and as this community of interest

1195
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:43,350
an online platform that they have

1196
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:46,350
designed to kind of get people actively

1197
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:48,570
involved to what extent we don't know

1198
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:49,710
yet but that's where they plan to

1199
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:52,890
release lots of these videos videos that

1200
00:47:57,410 --> 00:47:54,450
have been Declassified from government

1201
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,420
sources to get people discussing them

1202
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:00,960
looking into them whatever else so I

1203
00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:02,850
think that's going to be an endless

1204
00:48:07,850 --> 00:48:05,160
supply of fun for all of us researchers

1205
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:07,860
in the coming year but obviously the

1206
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:10,170
biggest story here and some people don't

1207
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:12,930
think it's a story at all and as MJ

1208
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:15,660
alluded to many people love pointing out

1209
00:48:21,110 --> 00:48:18,330
that this could be disinformation or

1210
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:21,120
preparing us for a false flag or other

1211
00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:24,270
things that really make me annoyed but

1212
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:27,000
we learned that the Pentagon the

1213
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:29,400
government had an active UFO

1214
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:33,060
investigation program going on up until

1215
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:36,750
just recently or so so some sources I've

1216
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:38,280
seen have been turning it into a

1217
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:39,960
financial story to talking about

1218
00:48:47,690 --> 00:48:42,510
spending twenty two million dollars on

1219
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,700
UFOs that's ridiculous and being

1220
00:48:51,740 --> 00:48:49,680
surprised at it black budget spending I

1221
00:48:53,780 --> 00:48:51,750
mean this is a you know a big big win

1222
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:53,790
big confirmation for some people and the

1223
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:55,530
UFO world who have been screaming about

1224
00:49:00,350 --> 00:48:57,690
UFOs and black budgets for so many years

1225
00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:00,360
but here we have confirmation that money

1226
00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:03,660
was spent and used from black budget

1227
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:06,660
purposes to fund this UFO program that

1228
00:49:13,070 --> 00:49:10,440
ran for a span of five years and worked

1229
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:13,080
primarily with Robert Bigelow and

1230
00:49:16,609 --> 00:49:14,700
Bigelow Aerospace

1231
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:16,619
this shouldn't come as a surprise to

1232
00:49:22,099 --> 00:49:19,050
anybody because we know that Bigelow

1233
00:49:25,220 --> 00:49:22,109
still not really with confirmation but

1234
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:25,230
we all assume that he still operates his

1235
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:27,690
advanced aerospace division of Bigelow

1236
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,210
Aerospace and that's sort of what

1237
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:33,599
happened after his national security

1238
00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:36,570
Sciences that he put together but money

1239
00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:39,780
was funneled to him for the purpose of

1240
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:42,300
doing this investigation for the the

1241
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:44,130
government's project one of the more

1242
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:47,250
exciting things is he changed buildings

1243
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:50,460
apparently on his big compound there in

1244
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,150
Nevada to store materials allegedly

1245
00:49:59,420 --> 00:49:57,119
recovered from crashed UFOs and again

1246
00:50:01,339 --> 00:49:59,430
that shouldn't be terribly exciting for

1247
00:50:04,339 --> 00:50:01,349
people who have followed Bigelow and and

1248
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:04,349
what he's done with UFO research even I

1249
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:06,180
don't think it's still there but the

1250
00:50:09,859 --> 00:50:07,890
National atomic testing museum there in

1251
00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:09,869
Las Vegas used to have an area 51

1252
00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:12,270
exhibit called area 51 method reality

1253
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,260
and it was really largely a UFO exhibit

1254
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,760
with all sorts of interesting and

1255
00:50:22,099 --> 00:50:20,160
fascinating things not even necessarily

1256
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,109
related to area 51 it was a very small

1257
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:24,720
component of this exhibit a lot of stuff

1258
00:50:28,819 --> 00:50:26,609
from George Knapp and there well but

1259
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:28,829
Robert Bigelow even contributed some

1260
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:31,740
artifacts to this exhibit and one was

1261
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:33,900
something that that George Knapp was

1262
00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:35,579
involved in an investigation with but a

1263
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:38,520
piece of metal that displayed unusual

1264
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:40,310
properties and like anti-gravity

1265
00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:43,470
properties and just you know interesting

1266
00:50:47,780 --> 00:50:45,630
interesting things and some articles on

1267
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,790
that but Bigelow donated some of the

1268
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:49,920
stuff to this museum but he's been

1269
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:52,650
involved in in material collection and

1270
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:55,650
other aspects of UFOs for so many years

1271
00:51:01,339 --> 00:50:58,170
and again talking about news this year

1272
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:01,349
back in May was when 60 minutes ran

1273
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:02,700
their interview with Robert Bigelow and

1274
00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:04,050
again saying things that he's been

1275
00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:06,599
saying for a year years but saying that

1276
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:08,790
there's been and there has been and is

1277
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:11,250
an existing presence an et presence on

1278
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:13,410
earth and you know saying that you don't

1279
00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:15,710
have to go anywhere in space to find

1280
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:17,430
extraterrestrials because they're right

1281
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:19,740
here and you know so all of his comments

1282
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:23,280
about his personal beliefs that we know

1283
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:25,500
that extraterrestrials are here you know

1284
00:51:30,859 --> 00:51:28,380
so it's not surprising that Bigelow was

1285
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:30,869
heavily involved and perhaps still is

1286
00:51:35,870 --> 00:51:34,170
involved in government UFO studies and

1287
00:51:37,759 --> 00:51:35,880
it didn't hurt that he was a good friend

1288
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:37,769
of Harry Reid's when Harry Reid was the

1289
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:39,930
one who really put this program in

1290
00:51:43,549 --> 00:51:42,029
motion I think it gives the program

1291
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:43,559
credibility to to mainstream audiences

1292
00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:45,690
especially and that's why I think the

1293
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:47,579
news is covering because Harry Reid is a

1294
00:51:51,289 --> 00:51:49,710
major political player yeah yeah and he

1295
00:51:53,749 --> 00:51:51,299
had backing for this program through

1296
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,759
both Democratic and Republican senators

1297
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:55,920
so I think that's a big thing like it

1298
00:52:00,620 --> 00:51:58,170
doesn't matter what political side you

1299
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:00,630
land on this this is a topic and an

1300
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:03,210
interest by many people both in Congress

1301
00:52:06,979 --> 00:52:04,680
both in the military both in the

1302
00:52:08,539 --> 00:52:06,989
intelligence agencies and yeah I mean

1303
00:52:10,489 --> 00:52:08,549
Reid says he's not embarrassed or

1304
00:52:12,739 --> 00:52:10,499
ashamed or sorry he got this thing going

1305
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,749
he thinks it's a good thing and he did

1306
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:15,119
his congressional service and I think

1307
00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:16,680
that's awesome if this is the thing

1308
00:52:21,739 --> 00:52:18,390
they're gonna be remembered for you have

1309
00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:21,749
so many people who dream of that so yeah

1310
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:22,819
whatever

1311
00:52:28,219 --> 00:52:24,930
another big thing I think is interesting

1312
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,229
is that officially this program

1313
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:30,720
supposedly has ended due to you know no

1314
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:33,450
more financing but we are hearing you

1315
00:52:37,999 --> 00:52:35,670
know by many of these people Elizondo

1316
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:38,009
included that it's still going on

1317
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:40,410
now that is that really interested me in

1318
00:52:47,059 --> 00:52:43,410
terms of who is still investigating it

1319
00:52:49,759 --> 00:52:47,069
is this to the stars is this Bigelow

1320
00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:49,769
still I do wonder who they're alluding

1321
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:51,150
to when they say it's still being

1322
00:52:55,819 --> 00:52:53,190
investigated do you think easily he

1323
00:52:58,969 --> 00:52:55,829
certainly said that Elizondo loose said

1324
00:53:05,079 --> 00:52:58,979
that he and others were still continuing

1325
00:53:11,479 --> 00:53:09,410
dysfunction yeah yeah Elizondo Lodge met

1326
00:53:12,709 --> 00:53:11,489
with a big a couple months ago this

1327
00:53:15,019 --> 00:53:12,719
hasn't been met we really broke the

1328
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:15,029
story but I mean if you look on social

1329
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:16,710
media just like searching hashtags on

1330
00:53:21,289 --> 00:53:19,890
Instagram you can see Tom and Elizondo

1331
00:53:25,209 --> 00:53:21,299
were there meeting with big eleven his

1332
00:53:30,259 --> 00:53:25,219
daughter so got a granddaughter

1333
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:30,269
yeah yeah that's Blair Big Love she

1334
00:53:33,739 --> 00:53:32,249
works for Bigelow Aerospace but yeah

1335
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:33,749
she's she's the one who posted the photo

1336
00:53:37,819 --> 00:53:35,190
hanging out there at Bigelow Aerospace

1337
00:53:40,670 --> 00:53:37,829
yeah yeah yeah that did go a little

1338
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,680
under reported and is not such a big

1339
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:42,240
deal yeah not only

1340
00:53:48,109 --> 00:53:45,090
but the reason that Elizondo left was he

1341
00:53:50,090 --> 00:53:48,119
quit because because of the secrecy he

1342
00:53:52,010 --> 00:53:50,100
said that was behind this like he wanted

1343
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:52,020
the information out so that was pretty

1344
00:53:55,850 --> 00:53:53,970
interesting as well how deep does the

1345
00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:55,860
secrecy go with this project they do

1346
00:54:00,800 --> 00:53:58,200
wonder the interesting thing is he came

1347
00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:00,810
on one of he was the last ones to come

1348
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:02,520
on with to the Stars Academy and he was

1349
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:04,380
the kind of the big question mark you

1350
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:06,660
mark who is this guy and he's been the

1351
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:08,760
one dominating the story this whole

1352
00:54:12,350 --> 00:54:10,170
weekend every story has been about him

1353
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:12,360
he's been on you know every every show

1354
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:14,220
and every TV show and radio program

1355
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,410
since Boston Saturday yeah and that is

1356
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:18,240
the real story I mean that the real

1357
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:20,070
story that broke on Saturday and you're

1358
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,930
seeing the fallout now it's not about

1359
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:24,000
any military videos that were released

1360
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:27,660
it's about the confirmation that despite

1361
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:30,210
denying it for so many years the US

1362
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:32,790
government did and perhaps still does

1363
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:36,260
investigate UFOs up into recent years so

1364
00:54:40,460 --> 00:54:38,520
absolutely so I mean anyone who doesn't

1365
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:40,470
have this keen interest that you know

1366
00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:42,030
the four of us do and who have been

1367
00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:43,590
preaching for years that yes the

1368
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:45,000
government does hide information about

1369
00:54:48,590 --> 00:54:47,460
this for the everyday person I mean I

1370
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:48,600
was talking to my girlfriend yesterday

1371
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:50,910
about all of this and explaining to her

1372
00:54:55,370 --> 00:54:52,920
yes apparently they have they have metal

1373
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:55,380
alloys and things from structured crafts

1374
00:55:00,890 --> 00:54:57,930
that are not in here again that that's

1375
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:00,900
that's very a very wide net of what it

1376
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:03,210
could be but she immediately shivered

1377
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,790
and said I had no idea like yes I know

1378
00:55:09,590 --> 00:55:07,200
you guys talk about this all the time

1379
00:55:10,670 --> 00:55:09,600
you know the x-files covers this but I

1380
00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:10,680
always thought it was stuff of fiction

1381
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:13,380
and we are seeing that a lot of the

1382
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:16,530
things that we do perceive as you know

1383
00:55:23,590 --> 00:55:18,390
in a fictional realm are slowly coming

1384
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:23,600
true I'm not saying drip drip splash MJ

1385
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,390
but it is very exciting any faith that I

1386
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:29,760
have lost in DeLong and what he's trying

1387
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:33,510
to do I'm still being very wary of it at

1388
00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:35,609
all but I think this is pretty

1389
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:38,070
interesting it's very compelling I want

1390
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:40,140
to see more gun camera footage because I

1391
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:42,510
think that is some of the big smoking

1392
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:44,609
gun stuff that we're gonna get and I I

1393
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:46,830
guess to sort of wrap up this one guys

1394
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:48,690
what do you think of the footage itself

1395
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:50,280
I mean I personally think it's

1396
00:55:55,310 --> 00:55:52,680
fascinating you know I'm not a pilot but

1397
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:55,320
reading and hearing what pilots

1398
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,780
that including the pilot who allegedly

1399
00:56:01,610 --> 00:55:59,760
was the pilot of that flight you know

1400
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:01,620
comments that he doesn't think it was

1401
00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:05,730
from earth I mean you know that's

1402
00:56:10,010 --> 00:56:07,740
interesting information

1403
00:56:11,570 --> 00:56:10,020
yeah I agree just because like none of

1404
00:56:13,550 --> 00:56:11,580
us are pilots so we don't know what

1405
00:56:15,140 --> 00:56:13,560
that's like so and I say you have the

1406
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:15,150
footage for us it's very you know it's

1407
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:17,220
very creamy and it's very so their

1408
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:19,710
commentary basically tells the story you

1409
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,330
know basically over okay blips on a

1410
00:56:25,580 --> 00:56:23,040
screen but here's the other thing too I

1411
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:25,590
want people to always keep it in mind to

1412
00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:27,600
listen to what he's saying this is a

1413
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:29,550
pilot a career pilot somebody who'd been

1414
00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:31,200
in the military for quite some time as a

1415
00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:33,750
pilot had engaged things in the sky and

1416
00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:35,820
when these pilots are seeing something

1417
00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:37,560
that they've never encountered before

1418
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:39,740
never heard about before displays

1419
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:41,580
characteristics and behaviors and

1420
00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:44,430
abilities that you know seems to be far

1421
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:46,950
beyond anything that we slashed they

1422
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:49,500
know about that's huge and we should

1423
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:51,570
take note of it put extraterrestrials

1424
00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:54,330
aside yes that may be a possibility but

1425
00:56:59,330 --> 00:56:56,520
just the fact that there's something

1426
00:57:01,480 --> 00:56:59,340
like that that we can't identify we

1427
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:01,490
don't know what it is but it's there and

1428
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:03,960
seems to outrun the technology we have

1429
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,790
that's something that we should be

1430
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:07,440
interested in and something that merits

1431
00:57:11,660 --> 00:57:10,050
study absolutely and I think the audio

1432
00:57:14,090 --> 00:57:11,670
is very important in here too and

1433
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:14,100
hopefully it has not been doctored at

1434
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:15,930
all we have we do have people arguing

1435
00:57:19,730 --> 00:57:18,150
that but the fact that like you said

1436
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:19,740
Jason these trained pilots they're up

1437
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:21,210
there for a reason they are scrambling

1438
00:57:25,010 --> 00:57:23,490
this object so they don't know if it's a

1439
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:25,020
potential threat or not so while they're

1440
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:27,090
there intercepting it they also have to

1441
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:28,650
be ready for a national security threat

1442
00:57:33,350 --> 00:57:31,650
to attack this thing so I mean as Lou I

1443
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:33,360
think it was Lou who even said and this

1444
00:57:36,770 --> 00:57:35,430
is you know a very common-sense thing I

1445
00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:36,780
would think but it's lost on a lot of

1446
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:40,440
people that despite the excuse given by

1447
00:57:46,030 --> 00:57:42,450
the Ministry of Defense by the United

1448
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:46,040
States government for ceasing their

1449
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:49,110
investigation into UFOs is that you know

1450
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:51,090
we don't have time for this and it's not

1451
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:53,850
a we determined it's not a threat what

1452
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:56,970
Lou says is look when you know you have

1453
00:58:01,550 --> 00:57:59,520
something in your airspace and you can't

1454
00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:01,560
identify it and you can't intercept it

1455
00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:04,380
that's a threat yeah that's a good point

1456
00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:06,300
it doesn't mean it fired on you that is

1457
00:58:08,970 --> 00:58:08,670
a threat it's not supposed to be there I

1458
00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:08,980
think

1459
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:10,540
there's sort of a lot though that's kind

1460
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:11,950
of hovering on the peripheries here and

1461
00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:14,170
I think we've we've in the UFO community

1462
00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:16,750
itself has kind of really been enamored

1463
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:18,820
with sort of the last couple days of

1464
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:19,930
sort of story

1465
00:58:25,140 --> 00:58:21,970
I think we sort of need to be cautious

1466
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,150
in just in a few things one the news

1467
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:27,280
especially 2017 in general but I think

1468
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:29,410
the most recent sort of news and

1469
00:58:33,090 --> 00:58:31,330
regarding these videos and regarding

1470
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,100
sort of this Pentagon's story and all

1471
00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:36,400
that is one sort of what ideology and

1472
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:38,200
what mythology are we sort of creating

1473
00:58:42,570 --> 00:58:40,510
when it comes to sort of UFOs and and

1474
00:58:45,390 --> 00:58:42,580
the UFOs are narrative that sort of

1475
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:45,400
existed so far like what what is sort of

1476
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:47,230
gonna adjust and change in the UFO

1477
00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:49,270
discourse over the next sort of year or

1478
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:51,940
so you know really we see this huge

1479
00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:53,730
reinforcement of the extra-terrestrial

1480
00:58:58,260 --> 00:58:55,960
hypothesis you know no one's really

1481
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:58,270
talked about anything beyond that this

1482
00:59:01,680 --> 00:58:59,680
is sort of really boiled down to

1483
00:59:04,859 --> 00:59:01,690
potentially either secret military

1484
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:04,869
program or extraterrestrials in nuts and

1485
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:06,970
bolts sort of crap from space like you

1486
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:08,650
know that this is really I think in the

1487
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:11,440
public eye an et question we can sort of

1488
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,390
say that it isn't we can sort of say all

1489
00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:15,760
the newspapers are doing a good job of

1490
00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:17,980
trying to keep aliens out of it but at

1491
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:19,780
the end of the day what's really driving

1492
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:22,480
these headlines is the term UFO the term

1493
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:24,670
alien the term extraterrestrial and and

1494
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:27,280
it's sort of mythologizing this story

1495
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:29,290
and it's becoming very much sort of a

1496
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:32,410
key aspect of of ufology in 2017 and

1497
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:35,500
into 2018 and ultimately what is also

1498
00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:37,300
kind of being lost as a result what

1499
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:38,680
stories are getting pushed to the side

1500
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:40,930
because of this one I would also kind of

1501
00:59:44,970 --> 00:59:42,760
want to point out sort of the youthful

1502
00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:44,980
aaja chol irony in all of this the

1503
00:59:48,930 --> 00:59:47,080
government in the military has always

1504
00:59:50,790 --> 00:59:48,940
kind of by the UFO community in general

1505
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:50,800
been viewed as someone you can't trust

1506
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,650
mm-hmm they lie to us they have secret

1507
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,359
underground bases they have made deals

1508
00:59:59,580 --> 00:59:57,760
with the extraterrestrials for in

1509
01:00:01,500 --> 00:59:59,590
exchange for abducting people and

1510
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,510
mutilating cattle and you know stealing

1511
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:04,000
our genetic information

1512
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:05,650
you know the American government studies

1513
01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:07,630
their technology whatever like you can

1514
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:09,820
you can sort of pile on the various

1515
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:12,220
again UFO lore that exists out there and

1516
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:14,770
and we've kind of a lot of people

1517
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:16,210
especially within the UFO community have

1518
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:18,490
we now have this blind trust towards

1519
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:20,890
sort of this archetypical enemy of UFO

1520
01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:22,380
community right

1521
01:00:25,610 --> 01:00:23,820
the government has always kind of been

1522
01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:25,620
the enemy not always but has definitely

1523
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:27,180
been the 80s instant has been the enemy

1524
01:00:31,850 --> 01:00:29,610
rather since the 1980s especially after

1525
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:31,860
sort of the mj-12 debacle and the Paul

1526
01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:33,570
bennewitz affair the government was very

1527
01:00:39,050 --> 01:00:36,750
much painted as the enemy here there's

1528
01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:39,060
someone you can't trust anyway and now

1529
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:41,550
we're sort of relying on them as a

1530
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:43,350
community to provide this information

1531
01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:45,930
and a lot of people have bought it sort

1532
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:47,820
of hook line and sinker just assuming

1533
01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:50,130
well you know hell if it's a gun camera

1534
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:53,220
video it must be 100% legitimate or at

1535
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:55,920
least and and in what I'm not saying it

1536
01:00:59,330 --> 01:00:56,700
isn't legitimate I'm not very

1537
01:01:02,060 --> 01:00:59,340
conspiratorial but we're we're not

1538
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:02,070
necessarily looking at why now like why

1539
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:04,890
has this all been released now why have

1540
01:01:07,070 --> 01:01:06,570
only 30 seconds of the video been

1541
01:01:08,930 --> 01:01:07,080
released

1542
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:08,940
why has this all come to light

1543
01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:10,110
relatively recently

1544
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:13,830
is it because Tom DeLonge is this UFO

1545
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:16,350
mogul who is able to to push the right

1546
01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:18,630
buttons or are there sort of agendas on

1547
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:20,820
top of agendas on top of agendas that

1548
01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:23,280
are again designed similar to sort of

1549
01:01:26,540 --> 01:01:25,230
mj-12 in the 1980s and the Benowitz

1550
01:01:27,590 --> 01:01:26,550
situation and everything from the

1551
01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:27,600
nineteen eighties designed to kind of

1552
01:01:31,850 --> 01:01:30,030
manipulate the UFO community or to

1553
01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:31,860
manipulate the message regarding the UFO

1554
01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:34,200
community to manipulate the narrative

1555
01:01:39,350 --> 01:01:37,260
for some purpose or purposes and I think

1556
01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:39,360
you know as as a subculture I think we

1557
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:41,220
sort of need to definitely look at this

1558
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:43,170
as an angle because to suggest that the

1559
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:45,330
government is just now suddenly hell you

1560
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:46,680
know what words gonna be honest with you

1561
01:01:51,530 --> 01:01:48,960
all right I think that's ridiculous

1562
01:01:53,690 --> 01:01:51,540
and I think that if you get fooled by

1563
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:53,700
that you know shame on you I agree with

1564
01:01:57,620 --> 01:01:55,530
MJ but it's funny you know we're just so

1565
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:57,630
as a UFO community we're so jaded and

1566
01:02:00,320 --> 01:01:59,040
you know we're still inclined to

1567
01:02:02,690 --> 01:02:00,330
question everything you know what where

1568
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:02,700
stuff comes from so even if it was

1569
01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:03,810
truthful

1570
01:02:07,790 --> 01:02:06,150
we'd be questioning it anyway yeah so in

1571
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:07,800
the sense that we're kind of doing the

1572
01:02:11,780 --> 01:02:09,510
work for them if in terms of district

1573
01:02:13,340 --> 01:02:11,790
formation and just kind of having that

1574
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:13,350
discourse amongst ourselves

1575
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:15,210
so just we're kind of just so inclined

1576
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:16,950
you always question everything that

1577
01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:19,170
comes from them so even if it is

1578
01:02:23,030 --> 01:02:20,520
accurate we're still going to question

1579
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:23,040
it so it's just kind of you know we're

1580
01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:24,330
in this situation where we're just kind

1581
01:02:27,350 --> 01:02:26,040
of screwed in terms of you know what do

1582
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:27,360
we decipher what we believe when we

1583
01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:28,920
don't well I'm not sure if it's it's

1584
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,150
we're screwed but I think I think a lot

1585
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:31,920
agree with you and and and I think to

1586
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:33,000
however that we've we've also been

1587
01:02:36,140 --> 01:02:34,410
played right I think the UFO community

1588
01:02:38,829 --> 01:02:36,150
has definitely been played too

1589
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:38,839
like this I think a lot of the the

1590
01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:41,430
mistrust within the UFO community of

1591
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:43,619
others within the UFO community is

1592
01:02:47,390 --> 01:02:45,660
definitely been seeded by sort of

1593
01:02:50,059 --> 01:02:47,400
various three-letter intelligence

1594
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:50,069
agencies purposefully to cause a little

1595
01:02:53,299 --> 01:02:51,569
bit of disruption again I'm not very

1596
01:02:54,289 --> 01:02:53,309
conspiratorial but you know if you're

1597
01:02:56,059 --> 01:02:54,299
dealing with people who don't

1598
01:02:57,529 --> 01:02:56,069
necessarily trust trust you as a

1599
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:57,539
government or or they don't by the

1600
01:03:01,490 --> 01:02:59,579
status quo you know you're gonna want to

1601
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:01,500
sort of maintain some aspect of control

1602
01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:04,559
over over this group of people who don't

1603
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:06,809
comply with the mainstream yeah that's a

1604
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:08,970
very good point and I think again we

1605
01:03:13,220 --> 01:03:10,380
always talking back to this idea that

1606
01:03:15,980 --> 01:03:13,230
even if we don't have control over what

1607
01:03:18,980 --> 01:03:15,990
might be in our skies we can control the

1608
01:03:21,650 --> 01:03:18,990
information giving to the public so why

1609
01:03:23,420 --> 01:03:21,660
they're giving this to us now we may

1610
01:03:25,609 --> 01:03:23,430
never know but I think you guys make

1611
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:25,619
good points what else is crazy is has

1612
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:27,750
anyone noticed that Rick Doty has been

1613
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:30,089
around a lot lately you have to wonder

1614
01:03:37,309 --> 01:03:34,529
why well you know with any subject but

1615
01:03:39,769 --> 01:03:37,319
especially the UFO subject we always try

1616
01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:39,779
to caution people to be cautiously

1617
01:03:45,620 --> 01:03:43,500
skeptical of any information I mean you

1618
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:45,630
really have to question everything from

1619
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,089
the sources and and the the meat of that

1620
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:51,359
that content so I mean just I know we're

1621
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,210
getting quote-unquote official

1622
01:03:58,099 --> 01:03:55,920
information here and official sources

1623
01:04:00,049 --> 01:03:58,109
but still you know you've got to be

1624
01:04:01,279 --> 01:04:00,059
cautiously skeptical you need to do your

1625
01:04:03,410 --> 01:04:01,289
own research and it comes down to

1626
01:04:06,140 --> 01:04:03,420
believing what you're going to believe

1627
01:04:08,779 --> 01:04:06,150
as an individual but one thing that you

1628
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:08,789
know really kind of annoys me with a lot

1629
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:10,730
of the headlines I've seen with this

1630
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:14,609
latest news of the the government's UFO

1631
01:04:22,190 --> 01:04:17,609
program in and out of the UFO community

1632
01:04:23,740 --> 01:04:22,200
is this statement that Oh disclosure has

1633
01:04:26,420 --> 01:04:23,750
happened there's finally the the

1634
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,430
confirmation that UFOs exist that's what

1635
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,319
I'm seeing inside the UFO community and

1636
01:04:35,329 --> 01:04:30,480
outside just in the general public like

1637
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:35,339
oh the UFOs exist and you know that

1638
01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:36,569
always makes me scratch my head because

1639
01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:39,180
I do understand and have talked to so

1640
01:04:46,010 --> 01:04:42,260
many people that not even speaking

1641
01:04:48,250 --> 01:04:46,020
extraterrestrial necessarily but still a

1642
01:04:49,970 --> 01:04:48,260
big chunk of the mainstream public

1643
01:04:52,099 --> 01:04:49,980
doesn't think that

1644
01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:52,109
there are unidentified objects in the

1645
01:04:57,380 --> 01:04:54,780
sky they think that you know they live

1646
01:04:59,180 --> 01:04:57,390
in this safe happy bubble and the

1647
01:05:01,609 --> 01:04:59,190
military has everything under control

1648
01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:01,619
and knows every speck of whatever is

1649
01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:03,270
flying in the sky so they don't need to

1650
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:04,109
worry about it

1651
01:05:10,580 --> 01:05:07,530
we're all good but I've seen so much of

1652
01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:10,590
that today and yesterday about how we

1653
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,590
now know that UFOs exist

1654
01:05:16,190 --> 01:05:14,640
I've talked about this before I've time

1655
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:16,200
was before and just I think the

1656
01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:18,240
disclosure movement in general and and

1657
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,800
sort of the XO political movement is a

1658
01:05:23,030 --> 01:05:21,359
natural sort of extension of ufology

1659
01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:23,040
right I mean you look at you know

1660
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:24,840
nineteen forties fifties sixties

1661
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,510
seventies ufology it was really sort of

1662
01:05:30,830 --> 01:05:29,760
investigating UFO reports and trying to

1663
01:05:32,690 --> 01:05:30,840
piece together some of the science

1664
01:05:34,460 --> 01:05:32,700
behind it and and into the sort of the

1665
01:05:36,590 --> 01:05:34,470
80s in this especially the 90s and early

1666
01:05:38,330 --> 01:05:36,600
2000s you have this sort of big push

1667
01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:38,340
that you know really you know

1668
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:40,230
investigating UFO reports is sort of a

1669
01:05:44,750 --> 01:05:42,210
dead art and and it's really all about

1670
01:05:46,099 --> 01:05:44,760
disclosure and I think disclosure is

1671
01:05:47,540 --> 01:05:46,109
kind of at the point now where it's sort

1672
01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:47,550
of run it's it's not run its course but

1673
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:48,600
it's definitely kind of at this point

1674
01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:51,210
now where it's 2017 it's been you know

1675
01:05:56,270 --> 01:05:53,310
nearly two decades and nothing's

1676
01:05:58,730 --> 01:05:56,280
happened and and similarly to you know

1677
01:06:01,070 --> 01:05:58,740
UFO investigating you know no one's

1678
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:01,080
found a conclusion and and disclosure

1679
01:06:04,220 --> 01:06:02,880
sort of this natural extension of it no

1680
01:06:06,650 --> 01:06:04,230
one's found a conclusion there's no

1681
01:06:08,270 --> 01:06:06,660
answer so I think I think the disclosure

1682
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:08,280
movement itself is sort of trying to

1683
01:06:13,130 --> 01:06:09,690
grasp at straws here I think they're

1684
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:13,140
trying to legitimize their entire maybe

1685
01:06:17,540 --> 01:06:16,050
philosophy and trying to kind of say you

1686
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:17,550
know yes you know this is this is

1687
01:06:21,050 --> 01:06:19,410
happening and this is sort of where

1688
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:21,060
we're headed to next it'll be

1689
01:06:24,830 --> 01:06:22,859
interesting in in a decade or so or

1690
01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:24,840
maybe in 20 years to see sort of where

1691
01:06:29,810 --> 01:06:27,359
the disclosure movement is whether it's

1692
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:29,820
even still a thing anymore and what kind

1693
01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:32,010
of the next thing will be at least the

1694
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:34,680
next sort of extension of ufology let's

1695
01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:35,910
say I'm not saying that sort of

1696
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:37,710
investigating signing reports is over

1697
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:40,410
but it's very much no longer kind of the

1698
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:43,680
key big aspect of really the UFO

1699
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,359
discourse right it is all about

1700
01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:47,280
government insiders and and it's all

1701
01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:49,470
about kind of speculating on what the

1702
01:06:53,570 --> 01:06:51,660
aliens are up to versus sort of you know

1703
01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:53,580
people on the field or people rather in

1704
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:55,590
the field actually sort of talking to

1705
01:06:59,840 --> 01:06:57,420
witnesses and investigating UFOs it

1706
01:07:01,550 --> 01:06:59,850
still happens obviously but it's like I

1707
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:01,560
said it's kind of a dying art I think it

1708
01:07:05,319 --> 01:07:02,930
actually is

1709
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:05,329
yeah it gets looked down a lot on and

1710
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:07,760
pushed to the side and I will say for

1711
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:09,290
all you people out there who still

1712
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:12,650
believe in the value of looking into and

1713
01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:14,450
investigating sighting reports I'm

1714
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:19,300
raising my hand right now friends to me

1715
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:21,920
just like it's steady and all those

1716
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:23,450
billionaires spending their money trying

1717
01:07:28,510 --> 01:07:26,030
to talk to rocks like I think there's

1718
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:28,520
value in all of these things let's do

1719
01:07:33,549 --> 01:07:32,210
all the things guys and this is and you

1720
01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:33,559
know you know Jason you're getting me

1721
01:07:42,970 --> 01:07:39,430
all riled up you know I agree virgin

1722
01:07:44,530 --> 01:07:42,980
it's empty now you know it's all about

1723
01:07:47,319 --> 01:07:44,540
the witnesses right and this is I think

1724
01:07:49,089 --> 01:07:47,329
where I get a little flummoxed with to

1725
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:49,099
the Stars Academy and maybe mr. DeLong

1726
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:50,240
and all of these other you know

1727
01:07:53,799 --> 01:07:51,290
billionaires here spending their money

1728
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:53,809
on UFOs you know okay you have a few jet

1729
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,950
fighter pots which is you know great

1730
01:07:59,410 --> 01:07:56,720
they're witnesses but again you have a

1731
01:08:01,809 --> 01:07:59,420
whole segment of people who have UFO

1732
01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:01,819
encounters who have encounters with sort

1733
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:03,740
of anomalous beings or whatever you want

1734
01:08:08,140 --> 01:08:06,170
to call the right they engage with the

1735
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:08,150
phenomenon in some way and ultimately

1736
01:08:11,950 --> 01:08:09,770
they are getting pushed aside right like

1737
01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:11,960
we're pushing aside the regular everyday

1738
01:08:17,019 --> 01:08:14,030
witness that has made up the bulk of

1739
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:17,029
ufology for the FIR since the 1940s and

1740
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:18,650
there and it's like they no longer

1741
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:21,230
matter right their UFO reports their

1742
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:23,330
sighting reports be in talking to them

1743
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,710
and investigating to them is becoming

1744
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:26,480
less and less important and what's

1745
01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:28,250
becoming more important is the

1746
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,160
discussion of mr. DeLong or the these

1747
01:08:35,229 --> 01:08:33,199
these sort of government insiders and

1748
01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:35,239
intelligence officers who have played a

1749
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:37,520
role I guess in in investigating UFO

1750
01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:38,719
threats sort of for the government or

1751
01:08:44,590 --> 01:08:42,230
never I don't know I like am I am I

1752
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:44,600
getting it should I be upset like do I

1753
01:08:50,169 --> 01:08:48,770
find it's really interesting coin at the

1754
01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:50,179
same time I think you got the flip side

1755
01:08:54,249 --> 01:08:51,679
saying well maybe it's about time that

1756
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:54,259
you know these people in in high

1757
01:08:57,610 --> 01:08:56,210
positions or you know answer some of

1758
01:08:58,930 --> 01:08:57,620
these questions whether they're being

1759
01:09:00,430 --> 01:08:58,940
truthful or not at least of the

1760
01:09:03,130 --> 01:09:00,440
spotlights kind of on them now

1761
01:09:05,050 --> 01:09:03,140
more so than before I think maybe that's

1762
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:05,060
a positive you could get from it maybe

1763
01:09:09,459 --> 01:09:07,250
yeah I guess you know maybe they're

1764
01:09:11,229 --> 01:09:09,469
they're finally sort of coming forward

1765
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:11,239
with their their own personal witnesses

1766
01:09:16,030 --> 01:09:12,890
you know military witnesses I don't know

1767
01:09:16,839 --> 01:09:16,040
I'm a little still you know yeah and not

1768
01:09:18,939 --> 01:09:16,849
only that like

1769
01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:18,949
witnesses report his soul all over the

1770
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,790
place you know and and and and I think

1771
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:24,319
it just points to a phenomenon that is

1772
01:09:26,890 --> 01:09:25,279
all over the place

1773
01:09:30,010 --> 01:09:26,900
I would say that is one of the

1774
01:09:32,019 --> 01:09:30,020
interesting things that was that

1775
01:09:36,419 --> 01:09:32,029
allegedly took place or was a focus of

1776
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:36,429
this Pentagon UFO program was the

1777
01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:40,400
experiencer element where they allegedly

1778
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:43,699
did reach out and talk to people who

1779
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:47,329
claimed to have had encounters to tests

1780
01:09:51,939 --> 01:09:49,670
and experiments and whatever see if

1781
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:51,949
people have been physically affected by

1782
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:53,839
proximity to UFOs and other things like

1783
01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:57,050
that so yeah this is where we're an

1784
01:10:00,700 --> 01:09:59,090
element to that studies no I definitely

1785
01:10:02,649 --> 01:10:00,710
have a problem with sort of the Pentagon

1786
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:02,659
it's like another issue with that it's

1787
01:10:06,819 --> 01:10:04,520
more so just it's sort of the way maybe

1788
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,829
UFO discourse is going like you know the

1789
01:10:10,899 --> 01:10:08,239
way what we're spending our time talking

1790
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:10,909
about I don't know people get bored and

1791
01:10:15,879 --> 01:10:12,770
then you got to move on to the new hot

1792
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:15,889
sexy topic I get it I see it all over

1793
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,840
the place and it annoys me because I

1794
01:10:23,459 --> 01:10:19,280
think a lot of important stuff gets left

1795
01:10:26,589 --> 01:10:23,469
behind there is nothing less sexy than

1796
01:10:28,569 --> 01:10:26,599
50,000 chicken scratch scribble pages of

1797
01:10:31,780 --> 01:10:28,579
notes from witnesses and experiencers

1798
01:10:36,970 --> 01:10:31,790
let me tell you that much I mean that

1799
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:36,980
with all the love and compassion exactly

1800
01:10:42,010 --> 01:10:39,440
what my book was about yeah like

1801
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:42,020
it was not easy I can tell you that

1802
01:10:47,530 --> 01:10:45,409
right now yeah it's not sexy it's not

1803
01:10:49,629 --> 01:10:47,540
really no it's not as exciting as people

1804
01:10:51,819 --> 01:10:49,639
would think it's at times extremely

1805
01:10:54,069 --> 01:10:51,829
traumatizing for the witness it's very

1806
01:10:56,620 --> 01:10:54,079
uncomfortable and awkward for the

1807
01:10:58,419 --> 01:10:56,630
interviewer you know in terms of like

1808
01:11:01,089 --> 01:10:58,429
how you handle the information your

1809
01:11:03,729 --> 01:11:01,099
you're getting and eventually going to

1810
01:11:05,740 --> 01:11:03,739
give to the public yeah yeah I I do

1811
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:05,750
wonder you know while we're getting all

1812
01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:07,489
this Pentagon stuff and this

1813
01:11:12,189 --> 01:11:10,159
Intelligence Agency stuff that's what

1814
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,199
the public is now seeing I want to hear

1815
01:11:15,970 --> 01:11:14,000
from those I want to hear from the

1816
01:11:17,770 --> 01:11:15,980
fighter pilots I want to you know like

1817
01:11:20,530 --> 01:11:17,780
know what they were feeling what they

1818
01:11:22,419 --> 01:11:20,540
saw like did anything else you know what

1819
01:11:24,970 --> 01:11:22,429
happened afterwards those are the things

1820
01:11:27,310 --> 01:11:24,980
that interests me the most so I again I

1821
01:11:29,709 --> 01:11:27,320
do wonder MJ where UFO discourse is

1822
01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:29,719
going to go in 2018 where it's going to

1823
01:11:33,010 --> 01:11:30,620
go in terms of

1824
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:33,020
we're getting from to the stars from

1825
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,640
this project I don't know

1826
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,320
damned if you do damned if you don't I

1827
01:11:39,550 --> 01:11:38,480
guess it is the phenomenon right it's

1828
01:11:41,650 --> 01:11:39,560
definitely weird and it's definitely

1829
01:11:44,740 --> 01:11:41,660
gonna mess with you so and hey we choose

1830
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:44,750
to be here we do we certainly do there's

1831
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:46,760
a reason that the three of you you know

1832
01:11:51,220 --> 01:11:48,770
took the time out of your night to do

1833
01:11:52,810 --> 01:11:51,230
this with me so I guess in terms of

1834
01:11:55,390 --> 01:11:52,820
where we're heading

1835
01:12:01,000 --> 01:11:55,400
I want to ask each of you in terms of

1836
01:12:03,070 --> 01:12:01,010
ufology who in 2017 do you guys think we

1837
01:12:05,770 --> 01:12:03,080
can look at and say you are doing good

1838
01:12:10,290 --> 01:12:05,780
work and we hope we hear more from you

1839
01:12:13,810 --> 01:12:10,300
in 2018 Mike let's start with you

1840
01:12:17,170 --> 01:12:13,820
totally like I'm kissing ass but I'm not

1841
01:12:18,970 --> 01:12:17,180
to say you here's why through your

1842
01:12:21,370 --> 01:12:18,980
podcast I think you but you have a great

1843
01:12:24,450 --> 01:12:21,380
platform I get you up in my mouth a

1844
01:12:30,130 --> 01:12:28,210
you hear me out for a minute I think I

1845
01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:30,140
think your podcast is a great platform

1846
01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:32,360
and every week you're able to come up

1847
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:33,800
with fascinating topics different

1848
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:36,890
different guests and it's open it's very

1849
01:12:42,580 --> 01:12:39,530
inclusive and you're almost creating

1850
01:12:44,290 --> 01:12:42,590
kind of new names and new stars and then

1851
01:12:45,940 --> 01:12:44,300
in the field I guess just your stir your

1852
01:12:47,890 --> 01:12:45,950
show and just through the likes of the

1853
01:12:49,210 --> 01:12:47,900
very inclusive aspect of it yeah I don't

1854
01:12:50,860 --> 01:12:49,220
look at it as who's making the biggest

1855
01:12:52,810 --> 01:12:50,870
headline I'm looking at it as who's

1856
01:12:56,410 --> 01:12:52,820
helping to grow the field in the most

1857
01:12:59,020 --> 01:12:56,420
way and that's why I said you run so so

1858
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,030
I'm sorry to be to be kissing butt but

1859
01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:01,760
yes that was really sweet Mike there's a

1860
01:13:12,010 --> 01:13:03,560
reason I brought got a little happy tear

1861
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,020
in my eye right now I knew you could

1862
01:13:16,810 --> 01:13:13,760
reach out to my patreon subscribers for

1863
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:16,820
that com backslash somewhere Scott you

1864
01:13:22,510 --> 01:13:20,290
know all joking aside bug I think you do

1865
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:22,520
tremendous work and you know I remember

1866
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:24,080
I first read your book it just I

1867
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:25,900
remember reading it and that was very

1868
01:13:30,340 --> 01:13:28,490
primal journalistic take on it for

1869
01:13:32,290 --> 01:13:30,350
someone with with no you know prior like

1870
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:32,300
professional experience I though it was

1871
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:34,370
absolutely the kind of know the essence

1872
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of kind of work you know which you

1873
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:37,130
should do when investigating so ever

1874
01:13:40,090 --> 01:13:38,690
since I read your book I was a fan and I

1875
01:13:41,860 --> 01:13:40,100
said I think we would she done with the

1876
01:13:44,230 --> 01:13:41,870
podcast has been great and hopefully she

1877
01:13:46,180 --> 01:13:44,240
needs to grow well thank you so much man

1878
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:46,190
I won't say anything else Jason let's

1879
01:13:55,450 --> 01:13:48,050
move to you my man well now I have to

1880
01:13:57,220 --> 01:13:55,460
see you to know I love you Brian and I'm

1881
01:14:00,190 --> 01:13:57,230
a fan but I can't give you the award

1882
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:00,200
every year so well you know I was

1883
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:01,490
thinking about this and I hadn't given

1884
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:04,880
it much thought through the year but you

1885
01:14:10,810 --> 01:14:07,310
know when I think about somebody in in

1886
01:14:12,490 --> 01:14:10,820
the field of UFOs and UFO research who's

1887
01:14:14,980 --> 01:14:12,500
made a contribution who's done something

1888
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:14,990
who's done some actual research and done

1889
01:14:20,380 --> 01:14:16,910
something that you know benefits us as

1890
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,390
researchers and you know helps in an

1891
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,640
educational light you know I'm a big fan

1892
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:24,560
of education and I think giving people

1893
01:14:29,530 --> 01:14:26,750
information that they can cite to and

1894
01:14:31,420 --> 01:14:29,540
use is really important and somebody who

1895
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:31,430
jumps out at me is our friend Cheryl

1896
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:34,610
Costa you know this year put out the UFO

1897
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:37,520
sightings Desk Reference a nice book

1898
01:14:44,110 --> 01:14:40,880
with lots of numbers and information it

1899
01:14:46,930 --> 01:14:44,120
got a lot of media play big headlines

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01:14:49,150 --> 01:14:46,940
and she's still being contacted pretty

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01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:49,160
regularly to do interviews with media

1902
01:14:54,460 --> 01:14:52,310
about UFOs and UFO sighting stories so I

1903
01:14:55,930 --> 01:14:54,470
I think Cheryl you know she's a

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:55,940
journalist she does a really good job

1905
01:15:01,360 --> 01:14:58,970
with her regular column she does and so

1906
01:15:04,150 --> 01:15:01,370
I've been a fan of hers for many years

1907
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:04,160
she's a friend and I think because of

1908
01:15:09,670 --> 01:15:06,770
her work tireless work compiling that

1909
01:15:11,890 --> 01:15:09,680
UFO sightings Desk Reference she gets my

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01:15:14,050 --> 01:15:11,900
vote that's awesome and I do have to

1911
01:15:16,690 --> 01:15:14,060
mention this before we go any further in

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01:15:18,910 --> 01:15:16,700
terms of Cheryl this is insane if you

1913
01:15:21,130 --> 01:15:18,920
think about how far the UFO community

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01:15:23,530 --> 01:15:21,140
stretches in terms of geography alone

1915
01:15:25,420 --> 01:15:23,540
Cheryl rights for the Syracuse New Times

1916
01:15:27,190 --> 01:15:25,430
for anyone who doesn't know I am from

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01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:27,200
Syracuse New York when I went home to

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01:15:32,110 --> 01:15:28,910
visit my family of this past summer

1919
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,120
there was a signed version of Cheryl's

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:34,400
book on the front porch of my parents

1921
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:38,090
home and I show up and I'm like what the

1922
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:39,770
hell is this and my mom was like oh yeah

1923
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:41,870
that woman showed up with your book with

1924
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:43,340
her book she wanted you to have it

1925
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,400
I found out Cheryl lives two blocks from

1926
01:15:52,930 --> 01:15:48,080
my that's crazy

1927
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:52,940
isn't that insane but I would have to

1928
01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:55,490
agree Jason I mean this book the work

1929
01:15:59,730 --> 01:15:57,550
and dedication that

1930
01:16:02,610 --> 01:15:59,740
Cheryl and her spouse put into this book

1931
01:16:04,410 --> 01:16:02,620
is unbelievable deserve all the praise

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:04,420
they can get and I think that's a

1933
01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:07,210
wonderful wonderful choice for sure all

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01:16:11,190 --> 01:16:09,400
right MJ what do you got for us as much

1935
01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:11,200
as I love Cheryl I'm gonna have to kick

1936
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:13,990
this old school I'm I don't know that

1937
01:16:17,130 --> 01:16:15,130
people know but I'm writing a book on

1938
01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:17,140
the Yoho subculture and I've been

1939
01:16:21,870 --> 01:16:19,630
talking a lot to a subculture within the

1940
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:21,880
subculture all the historians and

1941
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:25,690
archivists archivists who sort of log

1942
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:28,330
everything you philosophy related and

1943
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:30,460
one guy who I have to give a massive

1944
01:16:36,510 --> 01:16:33,130
shout out to and I guess my book is Paul

1945
01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:36,520
Dean out of Australia who runs the UFOs

1946
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:38,500
documenting the evidence blog this guy

1947
01:16:45,780 --> 01:16:42,310
is an FOI master F o IA master rather

1948
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:45,790
and historically he is a powerhouse in

1949
01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:48,010
the UFO world this guy knows everything

1950
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:51,580
and he can cite military I didn't know

1951
01:16:56,220 --> 01:16:53,110
they're called he can say that military

1952
01:16:58,590 --> 01:16:56,230
reference numbers for various UFO events

1953
01:17:01,530 --> 01:16:58,600
and whatever he runs a genius blog the

1954
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:01,540
guy does so much research he pours his

1955
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:03,130
heart and soul into his work and

1956
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:05,830
unfortunately because his work is just

1957
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:08,290
sort of history and archiving UFO

1958
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:09,670
information he doesn't get a lot of

1959
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:11,110
press doesn't get a lot of attention to

1960
01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:13,690
some of the other guys and gals out

1961
01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:16,630
there so my vote goes to Paul Dean who

1962
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:18,580
this year sort of blew the doors off of

1963
01:17:24,690 --> 01:17:21,010
the famous West Hall case out of

1964
01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:24,700
Australia from 1990 from 1966 rather and

1965
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:26,200
basically found a witness who was there

1966
01:17:30,540 --> 01:17:27,910
and said it was a whole bunch of

1967
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:30,550
nonsense and one teacher who just kind

1968
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:33,250
of went off the rails with a bunch of

1969
01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:34,510
the students and and just kind of

1970
01:17:39,090 --> 01:17:36,160
started telling stories and it became a

1971
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:39,100
massive UFO event and according to his

1972
01:17:45,630 --> 01:17:43,090
source nothing really happened so you

1973
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:45,640
know an interesting take on an old case

1974
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,670
but Paul Dean definitely gets my book

1975
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:50,560
this year that's awesome and these are

1976
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:51,940
so good guys I don't know how I can even

1977
01:17:55,410 --> 01:17:53,770
contribute to this I've been thinking

1978
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:55,420
about this for the past hour or so

1979
01:17:59,370 --> 01:17:57,250
trying to come up with someone and it

1980
01:18:02,880 --> 01:17:59,380
was tough but I think I'm gonna have to

1981
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:02,890
go with Miss Erica Luke's on this one I

1982
01:18:07,530 --> 01:18:05,890
know we've all spoken a lot to Erica I

1983
01:18:09,150 --> 01:18:07,540
did want to have her on tonight I

1984
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:09,160
apologize that I wasn't able to make

1985
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,409
that happen but the field we know is

1986
01:18:14,939 --> 01:18:13,840
wrought with its a boys club always has

1987
01:18:17,279 --> 01:18:14,949
been always will be

1988
01:18:19,529 --> 01:18:17,289
and any female researchers out there are

1989
01:18:22,890 --> 01:18:19,539
scrutinized ten times more than we ever

1990
01:18:25,859 --> 01:18:22,900
will experience the work that Erika has

1991
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:25,869
done throughout the years just astounds

1992
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:28,090
me amazes me what she's done

1993
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:30,489
who she's made contact with I know she

1994
01:18:34,529 --> 01:18:32,530
just was with Earling Strang not too

1995
01:18:36,659 --> 01:18:34,539
long ago out there and is it norway

1996
01:18:39,899 --> 01:18:36,669
berlin strand with the hesitate lights

1997
01:18:42,419 --> 01:18:39,909
pumping so yeah yeah so I mean this

1998
01:18:44,189 --> 01:18:42,429
she's going out of her way to go and

1999
01:18:46,350 --> 01:18:44,199
investigate anomalous things in our

2000
01:18:48,509 --> 01:18:46,360
skies no matter what the hell it is and

2001
01:18:51,209 --> 01:18:48,519
and I think she gets a lot of flack for

2002
01:18:53,159 --> 01:18:51,219
a lot of stuff that she brings forward

2003
01:18:55,379 --> 01:18:53,169
but she is she's strong she's due

2004
01:18:56,759 --> 01:18:55,389
diligent and she does the work and not

2005
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:56,769
many people can say that when they're

2006
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,449
sitting on their fat asses behind their

2007
01:19:02,909 --> 01:19:01,360
computers so I highly respect the work

2008
01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:02,919
that she's doing I can't wait to see

2009
01:19:05,850 --> 01:19:05,260
what she comes up with and yeah that's

2010
01:19:09,209 --> 01:19:05,860
what I got

2011
01:19:14,609 --> 01:19:09,219
excellent do we want to do the 20 17

2012
01:19:16,739 --> 01:19:14,619
people who should shut up I'm so happy

2013
01:19:20,069 --> 01:19:16,749
you reminded me I have that on a

2014
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:20,079
separate page here on my notes yes so we

2015
01:19:25,859 --> 01:19:22,449
talked about the people that we want to

2016
01:19:28,649 --> 01:19:25,869
hear more from in 2018 if you have any

2017
01:19:31,739 --> 01:19:28,659
one guys that you want to hear less from

2018
01:19:34,409 --> 01:19:31,749
in 2018 now is the time to voice your

2019
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:34,419
concerns what do you got for me MJ

2020
01:19:39,509 --> 01:19:36,729
alright so this particular character

2021
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:39,519
within the UFO world has been spouting

2022
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,400
off about evil cabal's who are cutting

2023
01:19:46,679 --> 01:19:44,800
his brake lines and he recently

2024
01:19:49,709 --> 01:19:46,689
published a book this year full of

2025
01:19:51,989 --> 01:19:49,719
pseudoscience and a bunch of strange

2026
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:51,999
esoteric nonsense that makes no sense so

2027
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:54,400
my vote for this year and into 2018 of

2028
01:19:57,870 --> 01:19:56,050
the person in the UFO community then

2029
01:20:02,179 --> 01:19:57,880
used to shut up the most is David

2030
01:20:05,909 --> 01:20:02,189
Wilcock take them off the air complete

2031
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:05,919
clapping love it love it alright Mike

2032
01:20:10,799 --> 01:20:08,320
what do you got uh yeah this is a tough

2033
01:20:11,310 --> 01:20:10,809
one I don't think anyone said that's

2034
01:20:14,759 --> 01:20:11,320
sorry

2035
01:20:17,339 --> 01:20:14,769
shut up I would like to see more than

2036
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:17,349
hear more so you know if we're gonna go

2037
01:20:20,879 --> 01:20:18,610
back to table lunch

2038
01:20:22,649 --> 01:20:20,889
I just wanted him to you know just put

2039
01:20:24,780 --> 01:20:22,659
his mouth is and continue to provide

2040
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:24,790
some of the stuff he's promised

2041
01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:26,470
rather tweet you know tweeting like a

2042
01:20:32,370 --> 01:20:30,150
but her child you know like you know

2043
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:32,380
what the what the video speak for

2044
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:34,090
themselves so yeah love it

2045
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:36,210
Jason yeah I'm too nice to say anything

2046
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:39,610
that's fair that's fair I completely

2047
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:40,450
understand

2048
01:20:47,820 --> 01:20:43,780
every my fiesta water hasn't gotten me

2049
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:47,830
riled up like MJ oh yeah okay do you

2050
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:49,810
need to get riled up over David Wilcock

2051
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:53,410
as my choice come on no no I have never

2052
01:20:59,250 --> 01:20:55,600
never been a fan that's just a natural

2053
01:21:01,320 --> 01:20:59,260
progression logic and feeling like you

2054
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:01,330
know come on you guys you know what I

2055
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:03,130
completely forgot and we didn't talk

2056
01:21:08,130 --> 01:21:05,410
about the person I'm gonna choose to

2057
01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:08,140
shut up in 2017 and should have shut up

2058
01:21:15,420 --> 01:21:10,750
for the next decade or so is mr. Jaime

2059
01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:15,430
mousse on oh yeah I totally forgot about

2060
01:21:19,890 --> 01:21:17,980
the The Mummy thing this past year not

2061
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:19,900
the Roswell money the other man the

2062
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:21,040
other mummy

2063
01:21:29,330 --> 01:21:24,070
the Peruvian or was Ecuador or where was

2064
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:29,340
this thing from yeah it's for a fake

2065
01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:32,650
agreed so there we go guys we got the

2066
01:21:36,450 --> 01:21:35,020
good ones we got the bed and with that

2067
01:21:42,030 --> 01:21:36,460
you've got the facts of life

2068
01:21:44,670 --> 01:21:42,040
so that is our late 2017 heavy wrap up

2069
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:44,680
of somewhere in the skies before we go

2070
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:45,490
gentlemen

2071
01:21:49,770 --> 01:21:47,110
where can we find all the work you're

2072
01:21:52,740 --> 01:21:49,780
doing Jason let's start with you simple

2073
01:21:56,190 --> 01:21:52,750
place to go rogue planet TV can also

2074
01:22:00,900 --> 01:21:56,200
follow my spouting on twitter at a

2075
01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:00,910
centric that's AC ECE and TR IC and if

2076
01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:02,950
you're one of those wonderful people who

2077
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:05,320
still values UFO sightings you can email

2078
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:08,170
me to a Jason at rogue planet TV mr.

2079
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:11,890
Demonte what do you got www dot and UFOs

2080
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:15,040
calm that is my physiology and Culture

2081
01:22:20,670 --> 01:22:17,710
site and on Twitter that like the

2082
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:20,680
Montague and MJ you can find me at my

2083
01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:24,910
blog which is WWE obscura net I also

2084
01:22:28,650 --> 01:22:26,620
contribute to mysterious universe so you

2085
01:22:31,530 --> 01:22:28,660
can find me there and you can follow me

2086
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:31,540
on all the social media at MJ be nice

2087
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:33,910
love it I look forward to your book my

2088
01:22:38,939 --> 01:22:36,970
friend and guys again I cannot thank you

2089
01:22:40,589 --> 01:22:38,949
for coming on taking the time to do

2090
01:22:43,169 --> 01:22:40,599
today I think we only scratched the

2091
01:22:45,569 --> 01:22:43,179
surface of what is to come in this year

2092
01:22:48,299 --> 01:22:45,579
I'm hopeful and I look forward to

2093
01:22:50,669 --> 01:22:48,309
whatever comes next both in ufology and

2094
01:22:53,279 --> 01:22:50,679
in all of your lives so again have a

2095
01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:53,289
great holiday Happy New Year and thank

2096
01:22:55,799 --> 01:22:54,369
you again for joining me

2097
01:22:57,839 --> 01:22:55,809
thanks very much all right that is it

2098
01:23:00,449 --> 01:22:57,849
for this week's episode again you can

2099
01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:00,459
find MJ boneses work at tara obscura

2100
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:03,550
dotnet Jason McClellan at rogue planet

2101
01:23:08,129 --> 01:23:06,639
TV and Mike Demonte at punk rock and

2102
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:08,139
UFOs dot-com

2103
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:09,760
oh and before I forget just a warning

2104
01:23:14,399 --> 01:23:12,130
that next week we will be taking a break

2105
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:14,409
to celebrate the holidays but fear not

2106
01:23:19,109 --> 01:23:16,690
we will be back the following week with

2107
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:19,119
an all-new episode and I'm sure some

2108
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:21,369
updates on Tom DeLonge never-ending

2109
01:23:27,779 --> 01:23:24,610
battle with ufology both in the best and

2110
01:23:30,089 --> 01:23:27,789
worst of ways thank you so much for an

2111
01:23:32,399 --> 01:23:30,099
incredible year of support whether it

2112
01:23:35,370 --> 01:23:32,409
was interacting on Facebook Twitter or

2113
01:23:38,399 --> 01:23:35,380
by just sharing the show thank you also

2114
01:23:40,949 --> 01:23:38,409
to my patreon subscribers I have big

2115
01:23:43,649 --> 01:23:40,959
plans for some incredible rewards coming

2116
01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:43,659
in 2018 so why not end the year right

2117
01:23:48,029 --> 01:23:45,400
and head on over to the patreon campaign

2118
01:23:48,509 --> 01:23:48,039
to learn more and to help support the

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that's patreon.com slash somewhere skies

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01:23:57,540 --> 01:23:54,340
we are on twitter at summer skies

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01:24:00,270 --> 01:23:57,550
instagram at summer skies pod and all

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past episodes articles and contact info

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01:24:05,069 --> 01:24:02,409
can be found on the website somewhere in

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01:24:07,049 --> 01:24:05,079
the skies calm have a very happy holiday

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01:24:08,219 --> 01:24:07,059
season everybody and I will see you here

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01:24:09,959 --> 01:24:08,229
in two weeks

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01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:09,969
remember keep your feet on the ground

2129
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:12,880
but never stop searching somewhere in

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01:24:23,070 --> 01:24:13,440
the skies

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[Applause]

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hi I'm Jeremy one of the hosts of Sick

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Boy podcast a weekly podcast where we

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speak with people living with chronic

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terminal mental and physical illness but

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our goal help people understand that

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sometimes the best way to deal with the

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challenges of life is simply to laugh

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